I need a mattress for a second place I stay occasionally, and have had trouble finding comfortable mattresses in the past. Current mattress is so bad I no longer stay over
I get upper back soreness/tightness and lower back soreness after sleeping on the 10" Welpur F110 (from Jysk) that is there now, despite it being their top-line mattress. I have to sleep with my back along the reinforced “edge” to not wake up a cripple – and still sleep like shit on it even doing that. And it’s hardly been used!! I had it on one of those low profile 1" thick platforms originally, but it slept better right on the floor - which told me that platform was sagging? This is the one:
At home, I have a King-size Dreameasy eco-Pur 6000 that dates to 2011. It is sitting on a 2 pc box spring. Sleeps great! There is a platform style bed-frame at the other place (with many slats) that I can use. I would prefer this over putting mattress on the floor, but I anticipate it will affect feel?
Anyways - my thinking is to find something that is constructed the same or similar as the eco-pur 6000 to get similar sleep results? Not sure if this is a good plan to follow or not. I had thought about going the Amazon/Endy/Douglas mattress-in-a-box route, but I’m not sure how those mattresses compare to this one.
The mattress will be used by me for approx 8 months every second night, and will then be relegated as a very occasionally used guest mattress for the rest of it’s life.
I am 5’10" 215lbs,
I have tried to find out construction details on my own for the Eco-pur mattress but not had much luck? I know it is manufactured by Foamco in Toronto. All I have found so far is that it has “natural latex” and “pressure relieving memory foam” in it’s construction, and a "cashmere fabric quilted to “anti-microbial wool” topping- although it does not look like a “pillow top”.
To complicate things, the new mattress will be used at a place out in the country, about an hours drive from London, ON. This DOES make the shipped-in-a-box mattresses really attractive…
I am sorry to hear that he “10” Wellpur F110 (from Jysk)" is not working out for you and that you have back issues and major discomfort when sleeping on it. You are on the right track though by trying to understand its root cause so that you don’t run into a similar issue with another bed.
While the Jysk is transparent and provides the mattress specifications you need to know to make an informed mattress purchase, I wouldn’t say that this is a “top-line” mattress. The (0.8" + 1.2") memory foam comfort layers with a density of 2.8 lbs/cu ft raise a red flag in terms of mattress durability even though your plan only sleep occasionally on it after the first 8 months of use. You are also in a higher BMI range so the memory foam shouldn’t have a density of less than 5 lbs/cuft. If you’re considering staying with some sort of memory foam product, there are some guidelines for purchasing memory foam in On the left are subject matters. post #10 here.
It looks like you’d need to ditch your Bunkie board. Good thinking with placing the mattress on the floor to check if’s contributing to the issue. The mattress does not appear to have “reinforced edge” support so the slight improvement you experienced when sleeping along the edge is primarily due to sleeping in the “shallower” area of the sagging system. As the mattress has “hardly been used” it’s unlikely that the sagging is caused by the foam breaking down but rather by an improper firmness choice, comfort/support balance, and design for your body type and sleeping position.
The number of slats is not as important as the width and the gap between slats. A foundation should be sturdy,
perfectly flat and that there are no parts that are sagging or that are bending under the weight of the mattress and the people sleeping on it. For sizes larger than twins it should have center support and it should provide similar support to having your mattress on the floor
There are quite a few comments of other forum subscribers about Endy mattress that you can see with a quick forum search .Post #1 lists its specs
2" 3 lb gel memory foam
3" 1.8 lb polyfoam
5" 1.8 lb polyfoam
Same for Douglas bed
Top layer - 2" Luxury ecoLight™ Cooling Gel Foam - 2.5lbs and 10 ILD
Middle layer - 2" Premium Elastex™ Foam - 1.8 lbs and 11.5 ILD
The base layer - 6" Motion Isolation Support Foam - 1.8 lbs and 32 ILD
In addition to the durability and higher BMI cautions I’d keep in mind that the design of both mattresses is very similar to your Wellpur so depending on your comfort choice you may end up with the same issues. Also, I’d keep in mind that with memory foam there are differences in response rates and sensitivity to heat that can manipulate the feel, but overall memory foam is a material with low resiliency and high hysteresis and generally wouldn’t be considered by most as “medium-firm”. Also, density and plushness aren’t necessarily correlated with memory foam.
This mattress has been discontinued quite a while back so I wasn’t more successful in finding the eco-Pur 6000 specs. There are a few comments on the 4700 series in post #5 here that you may want to have a look at. Also, you can see the layering of Ecopur 4400 in post #3 here which indicates a layer of polyfoam (probably in the quilting) along with the wool above the 2" of latex.
Is there a reason for your selecting only a memory foam mattress and moving away from the use of latex in your mattress?
The mattress shopping tutorial here has the basic information, steps, and guidelines including suggestions about how to test a mattress for what is called PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) that can simplify your search and help you make the best possible choices.
Even though you are considering an online purchase with “shipped-in-a-box” delivery I’d recommend you do some local testing and add a new reference point before moving forward
