Phenix, great job with the site! Super helpful for all of us non lemmings.
After using the site to help us identify what we were delving into with purchasing a new mattress this past month, we pulled the trigger on a new one from a local small independent maker here in Boise, Leisure Industries. Mike the owner (3rd generation) was great and we were able to talk through the process with him very easily.
We selected a mattress with the following specs bottom to top -
Aloe Vera cover
3" Visco 5lb mem foam
2" Talalay Elastic 29 iLD
3" of 2.5 HR foam
It seemed about right in the store. Several nights in and we are no longer sure.
We both mostly sleep on our sides and variations of that with me shoulders to front and my wife shoulders to back. I am 170 she is 125
My pain is at the shoulders. My quick take based simply on what it feels like is that I am hitting the support layer in that zone.
My wife is also having upper back and shoulder pain. She seems to be tossing and turning more than she used to in our old bed, simply because I am noticing it. After reading various threads here my guess is that she is twisting her shoulders and thus getting the upper back pain. maybe her tossing and turning is her going beyond just twisting.
With the the above specs and associated symptoms We are trying to determine if this would this be a too-soft comfort layer issue or a too-hard support layer issue?
During the purchase process we slept on a mattress we both thought comfortable in a hotel. it is the Enso Denali puregel mattress. I believe i have read here that their materials quality is a little concerning, but the layering spec on that bed is as follows from bottom to top -
2’ Puregel mem foam
2" HR support Foam
3" Tri Tech Memory Foam
3" HD Poly
Also has a foam encased edge
How would this bed compare with the one we purchased?
Mike at Leisure will change out the bed to anything that works for us, but I want to make sure to try and go with the best option based on results. He has a similar model to our that uses coils in the support layer that might be a good way to add a little give to the support where needed? We also still have our old memory foam topper that we could throw on for a couple nights to see what happens to gather more data so to speak.
Thanks for all the advice and things to think about.