I wanna thank you all for maintaining this forum and all the valuable information you provide here. I have done my fair bit of reading and I think I am ready to ask for some advice.
Background
Currently we’ve been sleeping on a mattress in a box from Leesa that I bought 8 years ago. Its felt saggy for about 2 years now and sometimes I have back pain from it. Overall, I think I got a good value out of something that cost <1000 CAD.
The variant we liked is the Soft one, which is a 2/10 on their scale.
We also liked this mattress from a big box store https://mattressmattress.com/products/beautyrest-alyssa-mattress but I know better now after reading stuff here. Still its a bummer because I think I liked this more than the latex one above, at least on first laying down.
I am having a hard time justifying this price (its 7000). I get that latex is the best and it felt good but I don’t think I was blown away or anything. Even looking at the longevity, they only have a 10 year warranty. I’ve read that it will probably last longer, but at this price I could just buy the same mattress in a box every 2 years and still end up cheaper. Nonetheless, I digress. I am still interested in getting something of good quality that lasts longer, so I wanna ask you, what’s a comparable latex mattress based on those stats above? Any online retailer that sells that in Canada? Can I buy anything like it at 5k or less?
Mattress aside, I also want to get an adjustable base. Is that worth it on a non-split mattress? I considered split mattress + split base for a bit, but the downsides are too big for me (I heard its uncomfortable to cuddle in the middle, and other things around that topic). @MFC
The mattress you describe above is quite unique and I do not know of any other company that sells something similar for less in Canada. If you are looking for something soft 2/10 then Talalay is the way to go. I suggest you go through the TMU Trusted members and look for the retailers that sell Talalay (such as Arizona Premium Mattresses) and others that can make a similar quality mattress for you for less.
As for an adjustable KING size base, the main inconvenience is that you cannot adjust your side of the mattress independently from your partners side.
Best of luck to you, and feel free to ask more questions as you go through the process
You can build one with organic latex for a LOT less than $5k and get exactly what you want / need. Talk to Roger at Latex Mattress Factory or the folks at SleepEZ for layering recommendations. If you’re considering an adjustable base, see my post entitled “Adjustable Bases 101”.
I looked at your suggestion (Arizona Premiium Mattresses) and their Eastern King Ultra Plush Talalay Latex Mattress looks very promising softness and materials wise, but it appears like they don’t ship that one in particular outside of Arizona. Their other mattresses that I looked at seemed to come under 10" and from reading some posts here it seems like that might not be thick enough.
I actually found a mattress on your site that looked very interesting to me, the Presto. I like the idea of moving the layers around to adjust the softness level. Is that mattress comparable in feel to what I tried do you think? Do you have any physical stores where one might try it? I’d be willing to drive fairly far, like one province over, if there was a place I could try it.
I have also read your post on adjustable bases, that makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately if I can’t find a split bed that has essentially no split feeling in the middle I don’t want it, at least not at this stage in my life. I realize a shared adjustable bed will likely not be used as much, or adjusted during the night, it will still be good for the slight incline to help with my sleep apnea and my girlfriends acid reflux and snoring. Which base did you go for? You mentioned they’re mostly all rebranded Ergomotion types.
Our Presto is made with organic Dunlop latex which is denser and has a firmer feel than the Talalay. Unfortunately, If you are looking for a 2/10 in softness the Dunlop will not be able to provide that. I’m sorry but we do not have any physical stores. I suggest you stick with Talalay as you tried it and liked the feel of it.
Many are private branding, but by a number of different manufacturers. We purchased ours from Denver Mattress because we needed local delivery and set-up (we are late 60’s and couldn’t have managed it on our own). We got the Hibernation Series Platinum by Ergomotion (who I believe has been making them the longest). They have one other by Ergomotion as well as half a dozen other labels, although those may be private branding as well.
@Sleep_EZ I was looking at your Talalay mattresses and was wondering if you
(a) ship to Canada
(b) have a configuration recommendation for me based on my stats.
Based on your heights and weights, we would recommend the 10" organic with soft Talalay over medium Dunlop over firm Dunlop for your partner’s side and medium Talalay over medium Dunlop over firm Dunlop for your side.
We do not ship to Canada, though, I apologize. Although we do not ship directly to Canada, we can ship to a freight forwarder in the US that will then ship the order to Canada for a fee. Please note that this is something you would have to arrange for and pay for yourself. Please also note that any layer exchanges, returns, or warranty issues / warranty replacements would also have to go through the freight forwarder at your expense and you would have to make all of the arrangements necessary for any subsequent shipments / replacements, regardless of who’s at fault and regardless of the reason for the subsequent shipment. I know all of that is a bit much, but that’s the only way we can make an exception to shipping customers in Canada. With all that said, if you’d like to continue with the order, the best place to find such a freight forwarder would be to do a google search for the terms “Freight Forwarder US to Canada” and go from there.
Thanks for the reply @Sleep_EZ! I will look into that option though I suspect its pretty expensive.
I am also wondering, why did you suggest the Dunlop for the 2 layers? And why do you think I should get the medium Talalay for my side? I sleep on my side a bit and I thought the soft one is better for that.
Oh I’m so sorry, I should’ve explained! The top Talalay layer should provide all the contour and pressure relief needed to avoid any pressure point issues and will add secondary support to the mattress. Secondary support is needed to fill in the gaps between your body and the mattress – back sleepers normally need secondary support to fill in the gaps between the small of their back and the mattress; side sleepers normally need secondary support to fill in the gaps between their mid-section and the mattress, and stomach sleepers normally need this under their belly or in their upper shoulder / clavicle area. If these parts of a person’s body aren’t supported by the mattress, their muscles will work throughout the night to hold these parts of the body up, and by the time they wake up they’ve got back pain. So the top 3” of Talalay latex will provide contour, pressure relief, and secondary support. The remaining Dunlop layers should provide all the support needed to maintain proper spinal alignment and avoid back pain. Please keep in mind that our initial recommendations have a 90% success rate (we only have a 10% layer exchange rate and a 3%-4% return rate) so there’s a 90% chance that the above recommendation works perfectly for you.
We recommend medium for the top layer for anyone between 185-250 pounds because that’s what they seem to do best on in our experience. However, you’re not heavier than 185 pounds, so if you think soft is a better choice then I’d say go for it! If you try it and it’s too soft for some reason, my advice would be to keep the soft layer on top and move the firm layer to the middle and put the medium layer on the bottom. This will retain all the contour, pressure relief, and secondary back support you’re getting from soft Talalay layer because it’s still on top, but it will increase the firmness and back support because the firm layer is closer to the surface.
No worries! Thanks for the details. I do sleep on my back half the time and the rest on the side. While I am at around 200, my weight goal is around 180 or less. I worry a little about buying something that fits me now but won’t in a year when I reach that. Since I will be on the lower end of that range, I wonder if its better to get the softer one instead. I’ll think on that.
I think that’s be a great choice! If anything, start on soft over firm over medium, and once you reach your goal weight, you can switch the layers to soft/medium/firm.