Large man in search for bed

I have just started hunting for a new bed. My current bed is a pillow top reversible from Original Mattress Factory in Minnesota. It always feels good to lay down on but i never sleep well and i toss and turn most of the night. I have tried some of the sleep apps and they say i am still about 3.5 hours a night.

I am a large man. 6’4’’ 300 lbs. I sleep mostly on my back and side but frequently wake up on my stomach. I also tend to sleep a little hot most likely because of my size. I went and did a little shopping this weekend and tried out some beds at the Denver Mattress Factory and also a few at Urban Mattress. I think the bed i liked the most in my couple minute trial was the Tempur-Pedic Cloud Luxe but the price tag is scary to me. Its like buying a small car. I liked that when on my back it didnt feel like my hips were above my head and when on my side didnt feel like my hips were out of alignment. I also felt comfortable in a bed that he listed as a Dunlopillo Conforma Gel 5.0, which i cant seem to find online anywhere. Has anyone heard of it?

I am leaning toward memory foam pretty heavily but i am curious what your recommendations would be for something similar to the Cloud Luxe that isnt quite as expensive that would be supportive for someone of my stature. I appreciate any direction you can give.

Thanks

Hi kdplack,

There is also more information in post #3 here and the posts it links to that would be helpful for those that are in higher weight ranges. While the process of how to choose a mattress would be the same … most people in higher weight ranges will generally need or prefer firmer mattresses (firmer materials will feel softer because you will sink into them more) and materials and components that are higher quality and more durable (the materials and components in a mattress will soften and break down faster for those in higher weight ranges than they will for someone that is in a lower weight range that doesn’t compress the mattress as much) so I would reduce or minimize the use of lower density materials that would be suitable for people that are in more “average” weight ranges (so if there are any they are only in thinner layers in the range of "about an inch or so) and focus more on higher quality/density and more durable materials (5 lb or higher memory foam, latex, or 2 lb or higher polyfoam) … especially in the comfort layers of a mattress which are more likely to soften or break down before the deeper layers or components in a mattress. Of course budget considerations can also be one of the trade-offs that are an important part of the “value” of a mattress purchase as well so there may be some people that are comfortable with choosing a mattress with lower density materials that won’t last as long because of the lower price.

I’m assuming that you’ve read the mattress shopping tutorial here which includes all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help you make the best possible choice … and perhaps most importantly know how and why to avoid the worst ones.

Two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure you’ve read are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best “match” for you in terms of “comfort” and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the “value” of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists (based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you).

While I can’t speak to how a mattress will feel or how different mattresses will compare in terms of comfort and PPP for someone else … outside of “comfort” and PPP the most important part of the value of a mattress purchase is durability which is all about how long you will sleep well on a mattress. This is the part of your research that you can’t “feel” and assessing the durability and useful life of a mattress depends on knowing all the specifics of its design and construction and the type and quality of the materials inside it regardless of the name of the manufacturer on the label (or how a mattress feels in a showroom or when it is relatively new) so I would always make sure that you find out the information listed here so you can compare the materials and components to the quality/durability guidelines here to confirm that there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to the durability and useful life of a mattress before making any purchase.

If the Dunlopillo Conforma Gel 5.0 is the same as the Conforma Cool Perfection Luxury Firm Gel 5.0 then you can see some comments about it in posts #1 and #2 here. Either way though I would make sure that you find out the current specs of the mattress (see this article) so that you can confirm that there aren’t any lower quality materials or weak links in the mattress that could compromise the durability and useful life of the mattress relative to your weight range.

I don’t make specific suggestions or recommendations for either a mattress, manufacturers/retailers, or combinations of materials or components the first “rule” of mattress shopping is to always remember that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved that are unique to each person to use a formula or for anyone to be able to predict or make a specific suggestion or recommendation about which mattress or combination of materials and components or which type of mattress would be the best “match” for you in terms of “comfort” or PPP or how a mattress will “feel” to you or compare to another mattress based on specs (either yours or a mattress) or “theory at a distance” that can possibly be more accurate than your own careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in step 4 of the tutorial)or your own personal sleeping experience (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here).

With your weight though I would also be cautious with the Tempurpedic Cloud Luxe both because it’s their softest mattress and because it uses 3.5" of 4 lb memory foam which in your weight range could be a weak link in the mattress in terms of durability.

There is also more information in post #9 here about the different ways that one mattress can “match” or “approximate” another one. Every layer and component in a mattress (including the cover) will affect the feel and performance of every other layer and component and the mattress “as a whole” so unless you are able to find another mattress that uses exactly the same type of materials, components, cover, layer thicknesses, layer firmnesses, and overall design (which would be very unlikely) then there really isn’t a way to match one mattress to another one in terms of “comfort” and PPP based on the specifications of the mattress.

Mattress manufacturers generally try to differentiate their mattress from the mattresses made by other manufacturers and don’t normally try to “match” another mattress that is made by a different manufacturer so while you may find some local mattresses that use “similar” materials or designs and there would be many others that are in a similar general category or firmness range … they will generally have different combinations of foam layers and components.

Unless a manufacturer specifically says in their description of a mattress that one of their mattresses in the same general category is specifically designed to “match” or “approximate” another one in terms of firmness or “feel” (or they are very familiar with both mattresses and can provide reliable guidance about how they compare based on the “averages” of a larger group of people) … the only reliable way to know how two mattresses would compare for you in terms of how they “feel” or in terms of firmness or PPP would be based on your own careful testing or actual sleeping experience on both of them.

There are also no “standard” definitions or consensus of opinions for firmness ratings and different manufacturers can rate their mattresses very differently than others so a mattress that one manufacturer rates as being a specific firmness could be rated very differently by another manufacturer. Different people can also have very different perceptions of firmness and softness compared to others as well and a mattress that feels firm for one person can feel like “medium” for someone else or even “soft” for someone else (or vice versa) depending on their body type, sleeping style, physiology, their frame of reference based on what they are used to, and their individual sensitivity and perceptions. There are also different types of firmness and softness that different people may be sensitive to that can affect how they “rate” a mattress as well (see post #15 here) so different people can also have very different opinions on how two mattresses compare in terms of firmness and some people may rate one mattress as being firmer than another and someone else may rate them the other way around. This is all relative and very subjective and is as much an art as a science.

While your own careful testing or personal experience is the most reliable way to know whether any mattress is a good “match” for you in terms of comfort and PPP or how closely it “matches” another mattress … when you can’t test a mattress in person then the most reliable source of guidance is always a more detailed phone conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart and who can help “talk you through” the specifics of their mattresses and the properties and “feel” of the materials they are using (fast or slow response, resilience, firmness etc) and the options they have available that may be the best “match” for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked or other mattresses you are considering that they are familiar with, and the “averages” of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about “matching” their specific mattress designs and firmness levels to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences (or to other mattresses that they are familiar with) than anyone else.

Outside of any local options that may be available to you that you can test in person … the mattress shopping tutorial includes a link to a list of the better online memory foam options I’m aware of (in the optional online step) and many of them make mattresses that are designed to approximate some of the Tempurpedic mattresses as well which may also be worth talking to or considering.

Once again though … I would always keep in mind that different people will have different opinions about how closely two mattresses “match” or “approximate” each other so the options you have after a purchase to exchange or return the mattress for a refund (and any costs involved) can be a more important part of an online purchase just in case the mattress you choose doesn’t turn out as well or isn’t as close a “match” to a mattress that you have tested locally as you hoped for.

If you let me know your city or zip code I’d also be happy to let you know about any of the better options or possibilities I’m aware of in your area.

Phoenix

Thanks for the reply! I am in the Denver area. 80123

Phoenix already gave you a ton of stuff to review. I’ll also mention a line of mattresses (not memory foam) that you might want to try that are specifically designed for athletic builds such as yours. They go under the trade names of King Koil Extended Life or Therapedic Medicoil HD. These use very heavy-duty spring units and true higher density foams. I know there are dealers of these products in Minnesota. Anything using componentry like these products certainly would hold up well for you, but as Phoenix mentioned your personal preference would guide you. And as a disclaimer, I have carried these products for quite a few years and have had good luck with larger individuals with them, but that is a general statement and I don’t mean to imply that these would be the best for you.

Good luck!