Latex mattress retailers in east central Wisconsin area

[phoenix]

Hi gismom,

The only question my salesperson could not answer was the ILD rating on the materials…

This isn’t important to know because it’s a comfort spec that wouldn’t have much relevance and your testing will tell you whether a mattress is a good match for you in terms of PPP.

[quote]Grandeur—
Total 14 inches high
Top layer with cashmere (and cashmere ticking) and silk topper…guessing this was 1.5-2" high
1" Dunlop latex
1" HD foam
1" 5.0 lbs/cu. ft. memory foam
1" of cotton felt layers
5 zone tempered coil innerspring system with more compact innersprings in the middle third of the mattress to support the hip area and this had a 6 gauge border rod running through the coils. These were the steel coils, not wrapped in any material, and around the perimeter of the mattress, it looked like a firmer type of styrofoam material with in which the coils were placed. I know that is a tough description, I’m just going off what I can recall about what he showed us.
All steel wire foundation
2 sided mattress option[/quote]

There are a couple of gaps I would want to fill in here. The first is to confirm the height of the innerspring to make sure that there aren’t any layers missing and that everything adds up to 14". I would also want to know if the top 1/5" - 2" was all cashmere and silk because I doubt that it is and there is almost certsinly some quilting foam in the mix. I would also want to know the blend of the Dunlop (although any latex would be a good quality material and would be more durable than most polyfoam). If the top layer was all natural fibers then you could expect some “nesting” and compression as the fibers pack down because it would be a rather thick layer. It would also be nice to know the density of the 1" polyfoam because while it’s less than an inch by itself, there may be more than “about an inch or so” of unknown materials if there is also polyfoam in the quilting (see the guidelines in post #4 here).

[quote]Grandeur Elite–
14" total height
1.5-2" cashmere and silk topper
3" Dunlop latex
1" HD foam
cotton felt layers
713 coils- side support coil with border rods- coils closer in middle third of mattress
All steel wire foundation
2 sided mattress option
Again, could not find specifics about the ILD’s[/quote]

My comments about the Grandeur would apply here as well to make sure that all the layers add up to the thickness of the mattress.

[quote]Wellington—
Total 17 inches high
Wool and latex cover- 1.5-2"
1" HD foam
1/2" Dunop latex
1" Dunlop latex
Individually pocketed coils
Foam encased edging (4" HD foam around entire perimeter of the mattress; instead of the border rods)
Support layer- individually pocketed coils)
Only one sided mattress option[/quote]

There clearly seem to be some missing layers in this description because I doubt that the pocket coils are 12" - 13" tall. I would also want to know the density of the foam encasement.

Of these, we liked all three, with the Wellington the best as it had the least amount of noticeable motion movement when turning. This, however, was the most costly mattress and was $700 more than the other two. Plus, this is only a one sided mattress, so we’d have to figure out whether the extra money was worth it when we may get more duration out of either of the other choices.

The lack of motion transfer would make sense because of the pocket coils (you can read more about the different types of innersprings in this article). I would need to know more about the rest of the materials inside this one though to make any meaningful comments.

I noticed some soreness in all of the mattresses when sleeping on my side of my hip being sore(?) (the hip pressing into the mattress)…not sure if that is the best description, but definitely noticed it just didn’t feel completely good.

I would certainly pay attention to this because what you feel when you sleep on a mattress all night can accentuate some of the more subtle cues that you pick up when you are testing mattresses.

WG&R does sell their own brand of mattresses, memory foam based, however, the memory foam is not certified (when I asked the salesperson if the foam was certified, he said, “What do you mean, certified?” When I told him the two companies that provided the certification, he said he didn’t think any of the mattresses were because, “I’ve never heard of them before.”).

If the memory foam is manufactured in the US and not imported from another country (China in particular) then I would be OK with memory foam or polyfoam that wasn’t certified since most of the North American foam manufacturers are on the CertiPur list even if a mattress manufacturer that uses them may not be. I agree though that it’s odd that they aren’t familiar with CertiPur.

their memory foam was only 4.0lbs/cu ft. and both my partner and I did not like the firmness of the memory foam, even though we did give it enough laying time to allow it to warm under our bodies.

4 lb memory foam would certainly be a suitable density for your weights but it’s a moot point if the mattress wasn’t a good match for you in terms of PPP.

if I were to look online at one of the 15 retailers that are listed on this website, I’m wondering how accurately they could “replicate” one of the mattresses when I don’t have the ILD ratings on the latex or foam, and may not have all the specifics necessary that a mattress manufacturer would need to specifically duplicate a mattress

I think that the innerspring designs are too complex and there is too much missing information to “approximate” them even if you did have the ILD’s and I don’t think any of the online choices would be the same or similar in their design anyway. Every difference between two designs can make a surprising difference in how two mattresses will compare so at best you could use these as very generic guidelines about whether you prefer soft, medium, or firm mattresses (see post #9 here about the different ways that one mattress can match another one).

The PLB mattresses would be easier to “approximate” with a component latex mattress that used similar layers because there are less variables and missing information involved.

If you can find out the missing information (and you could probably do this on the phone) I’d be in a better position to make a few additional comments about the mattresses you’ve mentioned.

Phoenix