Yes, the 1" inch would be polyfoam, or else they would say memory foamā¦totally correct.
Sometimes these days companies are using āfast responseā foam which is more like memory foam but not as āslow recoveryāā¦and good quality for pressure reliefā¦but thatās not what we are talking about.
ok on foamorderā¦and I totally understand about the pushy bouncy 19ildā¦glad you could see it was different. No worries.
Have not heard from Simmons friendā¦so possibly early next week.
Talk soon, sorry about the delay in getting back to you.
Thanks again! Iām feeling a little stuck as the Novosbed was returned and Iām now back on the springs bed, which just doesnāt work for me. In an effort to make things easier, I had asked the local custom mattress guy to just purchase me a foam core to build off of, per previous advice. But I just found out that he didnāt and instead has a MF bed for me to try upside down as a core that is cheap/basic/with no density or IFD info. Given that folks discuss DIY mattresses here, I imagine there must be places to get a foam core and know specs of what youāre buying, so Iām not sure why he didnāt just do that as askedā¦but honestly, Iām having trouble finding a good source on my own. Any advice on where to find a good quality foam core?
Still hopeful you might get additional intel on some of the comfort layers from the Comforpedic in case we can purchase/replicate as well. But, I imagine the base is the least finicky component and something I can try to find in the meantime.
Itās pretty rough sleeping here so thanks again!
Apologies, I totally missed the āconventional foam blocksā option on Foamorder, which I have to assume is basically a core for DIY. Iāll plan to just call Foamorder to choose the kind of foam to select for my needs (and what I can find in past TMU posts using that company).
Is there a TMU guidance page with suggestions for DIY foam mattress? For example, do I need a cover on that blockā¦
This is all based on the assumption that using a core foam block makes more sense than purchasing a MF mattress and turning upside down per previous discussion.
And Iāll still keep my fingers crossed on your contact. I think you were hoping theyād have leads on where to get MF layers similar to the Comforpedic, but from your last post, maybe you are saying not to worry/hold my breath about the polyfoam layers in between? I guess Iām confused because if I was trying to get close to my previous experience, that would require polyfoam comfort layers too?
As always, thank you! I hope Iām not incoherent from lack of sleep
No info yet on the Simmons guy, first guy I called is working for another company, so he gave me a lead on some marketing people at Simmons and one Future Foam perosnā¦but itās about timing as itās hard to figure when I get the person that still has the info. And I hate to have it hold up any of your direction.
Ok noted on the foamorder, yes they have blocks of poly foamā¦of course a memory foam mattress turned upside down can āworkā it just seems like you are paying for some memory foam that is wasted on the bottomā¦thatās my only hold up.
One thing that I have to make sure I say, is even if we find the exact densities and exact foam that was used, doing this DIY will not replicate the feel of the Comforpedic, as the manufacturing one finished mattress, and using a sewn edge versus a zipper cover, and adhering the layers together, etc etc, it wonāt feel the same. I am going to post a variety of links and different posts in my next reply that will have links to numerous discussions about the DIY process.
Below are some posts taken from other DIY threads and answers:
If you are attracted to the idea of designing and building your own DIY mattress out of separate components and a separate cover then the first place I would start is by reading option 3 in post #15 here and the posts it links to (and option #1 and #2 as well) so that you have more realistic expectations and that you are comfortable with the learning curve, uncertainty, trial and error, or in some cases the higher costs that may be involved in the DIY process. While it can certainly be a rewarding project ā¦ the best approach to a DIY mattress is a āspirit of adventureā where what you learn and the satisfaction that comes from the process itself is more important than any cost savings you may realize (which may or may not happen).
[i]Outside of a mattress with more layers having more options to customize the mattress, if a mattress is a good match for you, then one isnāt inherently any better than the other.
If you are planning to remove and replace all the foam layers in your mattress and only re-use the cover and you are attracted to the idea of designing and building your own DIY mattress out of separate components that are purchased from one or several different sources then the first place I would start is by reading option 3 in post #15 here and the posts it links to (and option #1 and #2 as well) so that you have more realistic expectations and that you are comfortable with the learning curve, uncertainty, trial and error, or in some cases the higher costs that may be involved in the DIY process. While it can certainly be a rewarding project ā¦ the best approach to a DIY mattress is a āspirit of adventureā where what you learn and the satisfaction that comes from the process itself is more important than any cost savings you may realize (which may or may not happen).
There is also more about primary or ādeepā support and secondary or āsurfaceā support and their relationship to firmness and pressure relief and the ārolesā of different layers in a mattress in post #2 here and in post #4 here that may also be helpful in clarifying the difference between āsupportā and āpressure reliefā and āfeelā that may be useful as well.
For those who decide to take on the challenge then I would either use the specs (if they are available) of a mattress that you have tested and confirmed is a good match for you in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP as a reference point or blueprint and try and āmatchā every layer and component in your reference mattress as closely as possible or alternatively use a ābottom-upā approach (see post #2 here).
Some of the better online options Iām aware of that ship mattresses and/or foam layers and components (memory foam, polyfoam, and latex) across Canada are also listed in post #21 here and I also added a few additional options to the list today as well.
Thanks for all the links, Sensei! I had to take a pause for an unrelated medical procedure, sigh, but Iām finally able to pick up the bed build again. And the foam core I ordered has arrived.
Definitely, I understand that it will be different and every little tweak feels different, but I see the recommendation to start by trying to approximate what you know you like, so trying to channel the Comforpedic Luxury Firm.
I think weāre still hoping for more info on the āAirCool Memory Foamā from the Comforpedic? In the meantime, I see how I already have/can get 4 and 4.5 lb MF layers (albeit not knowing the ILD). But, I donāt know how to approximate ā1ā Firm Comfort Foam." ??
In the meantime Iām starting with:
-comfort: 3 inches or so MF (trying the various combos I have in the 4-5 lb range, such as the 1 inch 4.5 lb from foamorder and 2 inch 5lb from MFS mentioned here previously)
-transition: 2 inch Dunlop latex or two 1 inch polyfoams labeled ā16ā or ā23ā
-core: 5 inch DuraFlexā¢ D30 Firm foam
So far, nothing quite right, but Iāve only just started again. But, Iām just also wondering if I should try to find another completely different feeling memory foam that āholdsā better than the ones I have, which arenāt that substantial feeling and compress so easily.
I am building a queen mattress from a 6 year old Beauty Rest with wrapped coils. I removed all the old cheap foam. I purchased a 19ILD Blended Talalay Latex topper(Arizona Mattress)and placed on top of the coils and put a mattress pad on it for now. I am a side sleeper with shoulder and hip pain and pressure thatās why I went with the 19ILD that was suggested by Arizona mattress.
I love the topper I received from them, but now I could use a little more support/ firmness to my hip area. I seem to sink in too much and I only weigh 170 -175lbs
I was thinking another layer of Blended Talalay latex in Medium, I believe that is around 28 - 30 ILD and place that between the coils and the 19ILD comfort layer. What would you recommend and any suggestions would be appreciated and helpful.
2nd question: I have been shopping Sleep on Latex and they list there toppers as a Dunlop latex with a Talalay process to make it feel more in- between feeling, do you know / understand what they are talking about. I reached out to them and maybe you can explain this a little better. If I am getting the information correctly It sounds like it could be the product I am looking for over the Blended Talalay latex. Again what would be your suggestion and experience to the products that I have listed. I forgot to addā¦that I purchased a 3" 19ILD Blended Talalay topper and was looking into adding a 2" or 3" Medium 28- 30ILD Dunlop or Blended Talalay for a support / firmness. What would you recommend?
Welcome to the TMU Forum and thanks for your questions .
[quote]I am building a queen mattress from a 6 year old Beauty Rest with wrapped coils. I removed all the old cheap foam. I purchased a 19ILD Blended Talalay Latex topper(Arizona Mattress)and placed on top of the coils and put a mattress pad on it for now. I am a side sleeper with shoulder and hip pain and pressure thatās why I went with the 19ILD that was suggested by Arizona mattress.
I love the topper I received from them, but now I could use a little more support/ firmness to my hip area. I seem to sink in too much and I only weigh 170 -175lbs. I was thinking another layer of Blended Talalay latex in Medium, I believe that is around 28 - 30 ILD and place that between the coils and the 19ILD comfort layer. What would you recommend and any suggestions would be appreciated and helpful.[/quote]
Congrats on your topper purchase from @ArizonaPremiumMattress, glad to hear youāre happy with it. Just curious, did you check in with them regarding your comfort layer/ support questions?
This question refers to @SleepOnLatex/ their Earthfoam natural latex foam production process, as they are a TMU Trusted Member, think it would be interesting to hear those details from them. BTW, are there any updates on your DIY mattress project?
Since Iām not sure how to start a new thread Iāll ask this hereā¦
With the rise of bed in the box companies some of them are marketing their memory foam as ones that donāt responded to heat but just to the pressure so no matter the temperature in the room itās always a consistent feel, some are 4lb and seems of quality. Who makes these as 2" toppers? I much prefer the idea of memory foam that doesnāt respond to heat to keep the mattress as cool as possible. Also, how do those compare to the ones that respond to heat like Tempur-Pedic?
