Mattress Spec Question

[phoenix]

Hi geesahn,

Thanks for your comments.

First of all those layers don’t add up - 3" plus 3" plus 5" = 11 inch.

Many mattresses, depending upon the height of the border panel., will have a finished height less than the total sum of the foams contained within. This is especially true with foams used in a quilt panel (this mattress does not have a quilted top) and those that are tufted. Also, depending upon where the measurement of the total height was taken (side or top crest), there can be a variation. Unless there is a large discrepancy (a total height listed at 15" but only 12" of componentry listed) I wouldn’t have a major concern.

It sounds to me like you are purchasing 8 inches of foam with a 3" latex topper.

This is indeed a mattress with a polyfoam core with latex on top, but not as a separate topper. I don’t think there was any confusion regarding that.

So if you were hoping for an organic natural bed, this is not it.

Again, this was not the focus of js5g’s questions, nor do I think there was a supposition that this was an “organic natural bed”. The cover is listed as organic cotton, which could mean that either the cotton used in the cover is organic certified and it uses other materials, or it could be a GOTS certified organic cotton cover. Those specifications were not listed nor a question that js5g had about the product.

If you know you buying foam with a topper and you are fine with that, the 5 inch foam is probably firm and the 3 inch is medium firm and the latex is soft. This is just for comfort so if you find the mattress the right comfort level for you, it really doesn’t matter what the densities are of the foam.

You’re making some suppositions here of which you have no confirmation, and also making an incorrect statement. You would have no way of knowing what the “softnesses” would be of each polyfoam layer, as that information wasn’t provided. While it is true that many manufacturers will use a firmer base foam and then perhaps a progressively lower ILD above that, other manufacturers will use the same or higher ILDs with their upper layers. Only the local retailer/manufacturer would be able to answer that question for js5g. Additionally, your comment about density not mattering couldn’t be more incorrect. Density is the most important indicator we have of the quality of polyfoam, so knowing that these two layers are a better qualiy 2.4 lb. is extremely meaningful.

If you are looking for an all natural mattress be very careful. I thought I was careful and I was duped by greenwashing. I bought an “organic latex mattress” that was chemical foam with a latex topper,

I’m sorry you were either not provided complete details or didn’t investigate fully the mattress you purchased and bought something that wasn’t what you desired. There is also more information in post #2 here and the more detailed posts and information it links to about safe, natural, organic, “chemical free”, and “green” mattresses and mattress materials that can help you sort through some of the marketing information, greenwashing and terminology that you will encounter in the industry.

This is not an organic mattress. I appreciate you pointing this out, but there was no claim, nor supposition, that this was an organic certified mattress, nor was it represented as such in the post.

An all natural latex mattress would be all 10 inches being DUNLOP latex.
This is also not correct. “natural” and “organic” (and I believe you mean GOLS organic certified by this) are two different things. Both Talalay latex and Dunlop latex can be made in 100% Natural (NR) versions, and there is Dunlop latex that can also GOLS certified. There’s a little more about some of the differences between organic and safety certifications in post #2 here and there are also some comments in post #42 here that talk about the differences between these items.

I realize you are trying to be assistive and potentially trying to help someone avoid the mistake you made, but I don’t think there was any supposition of the product in question being “natural” or “organic”. Also, some of the information you’re providing is incorrect, so I had to address this, as thousands of people comb through the forum and they might see your statements and believe them to be “fact”, when in this case some of them were not.

Phoenix