Moving from Springs to Latex/Foam

In need of a new bed. Have had a simmons beautyrest eminence for 11 years and feel it’s time for a change. This mattress is not a pillowtop and it’s been a good bed in my limited knowledge. It’s time to move on. So far I have boiled it down to BrooklynBedding and KISS beds. Leaning towards kiss due to BME changing to poly foam. Any other online options?

Think I like a firmer bed, but not too firm. Think that is one of the reasons djd not go with pillow topt. My wife is ~115 lbs and i’m 160 lbs. Any reading materials or general directions you can point me in? I would like to order online and if anyone can do a comparison of these two mattresses based on specs it would be helpful.

Don’t think just putting a topper on the current mattress is the way to go, and will eventually lead to the same end result of buying a new mattress. Any and all help is appreciated.
Much thanks…

Hi linuxology,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :slight_smile:

Brooklyn Bedding in their Best Mattress Ever recently changed their upper latex layers to a very high quality, high-density 4 lb polyfoam. Is it that you are specifically seeking something using latex in the uppermost layer such as the KISS mattress?

There are hundreds of online options, whether from “simplified choice” online-only companies, or other manufacturers selling “boxed-bed” mattress that are available for shipping. The list grows every week.

A good place to begin your online research would be to use the experience and expertise of the members listed in post #21 here who are all very experienced and knowledgeable and specialize in providing the type of help and guidance on the phone that can help you make good choices. There are a wide range of latex and memory foam and other options included in the choices there and I believe that all of them compete well with the best in the industry in terms of their quality, value, service, and transparency.

A pillowtop is not a comfort designation, but instead a method of assembling a mattress, so when researching mattresses, you’ll want to pay attention to the componentry on the inside of the product, and not necessarily the construction.

While you are interested in something “firm” but not “to firm”, there are also no “standard” definitions or consensus of opinions for firmness ratings and different manufacturers can rate their mattresses very differently than others so a mattress that one manufacturer rates as being a specific firmness could be rated very differently by another manufacturer. Different people can also have very different perceptions of firmness and softness compared to others as well and a mattress that feels firm for one person can feel like “medium” for someone else or even “soft” for someone else (or vice versa) depending on their body type, sleeping style, physiology, their frame of reference based on what they are used to, and their individual sensitivity and perceptions. There are also different types of firmness and softness that different people may be sensitive to that can affect how they “rate” a mattress as well (see post #15 here) so different people can also have very different opinions on how two mattresses compare in terms of firmness and some people may rate one mattress as being firmer than another and someone else may rate them the other way around. So if you’re not able to test something out in person, then the most reliable source of guidance is always a more detailed phone conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart and who can help “talk you through” the specifics of their mattresses and the properties and “feel” of the materials they are using (fast or slow response, resilience, firmness etc.) and the options they have available that may be the best “match” for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked or other mattresses you are considering that they are familiar with, and the “averages” of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about “matching” their specific mattress designs, options, and firmness levels to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences (or to other mattresses that they are familiar with) than anyone else.

You bet! Overall, the best advice I can provide is to learn more about evaluating mattresses, and the first place to start your research is the mattress shopping tutorial here which includes all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help you make the best possible choice … and perhaps more importantly know how and why to avoid the worst ones.

Two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure you’ve read are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best “match” for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences) that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the “value” of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after a purchase if your choice doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for).

Outside of PPP (which is the most important part of “value”), the next most important part of the value of a mattress purchase is durability which is all about how long you will sleep well on a mattress. This is the part of your research that you can’t see or “feel” and assessing the durability and useful life of a mattress depends on knowing the specifics of its construction and the type and quality of the materials inside it regardless of the name of the manufacturer on the label or how a mattress feels in a showroom or when it is relatively new so I would always make sure that you find out the information listed here so you can compare the quality of the materials and components to the durability guidelines here to make sure there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to the durability and useful life of a mattress before making any purchase.

In its simplest form … choosing the “best possible” mattress for any particular person really comes down to FIRST finding a few knowledgeable and transparent retailers and/or manufacturers (either locally or online) that sell the types of mattresses that you are most interested in that are in a budget range you are comfortable with and that you have confirmed will provide you with the all the information you need about the materials and components inside the mattresses they sell so you will be able to make informed choices and meaningful comparisons between mattresses and then …

  1. Careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in the tutorial) to make sure that a mattress is a good match for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, and PPP … and/or that you are comfortable with the options you have available to return, exchange, or “fine tune” the mattress and any costs involved if you can’t test a mattress in person or aren’t confident that your mattress is a suitable choice.

  2. Checking to make sure that there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress you are considering relative to your weight/BMI range that could compromise the durability and useful life of the mattress.

  3. Comparing your finalists for “value” based on #1 and #2 and all the other parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you.

There are specifications of both of these mattresses listed in the Simplified Choice Thread (just scroll down), along with some other mattresses, although it is certainly not a complete list of what is available online.

I would tend to be in agreement with you. An 11-year old mattress would have served you well, and you’re in what I would consider “bonus time”. A topper can be a great alternative to purchasing a new mattress when you have a newer product that needs (usually) additional plushness, but still has good support characteristics and has more life left in the comfort materials.

Phoenix