In December I bought a new Flexus Quadra-Flex mattress to replace my 11.5 year old Original Mattress Factory (OMF) Orthopedic Luxury Firm, the latter which was placed on a slat platform bed. As years ago this mattress, when new was too hard, I immediately topped it with a 2 inch good quality gel memory foam topper. The bed was pretty comfortable for many years, but it was clear to me over a year ago that the springs were shot.
I have had fibromyalgia and back problems for many years, but my lower back problems have been much worse the past two years. I am 5â6 â, 160 pounds. . Due to low lumbar pain from severe disc degeneration and associated right hip pain, I can sleep only on my back or left side. I spent over 6 months trying (in the store) many mattresses locally and looking for information on line. My best source has been this site, the Mattress Underground, and I have read all the basic information and many reviews , questions and answers on the Forum. Thank you Phoenix, you and your many contributors are the best.
After thinking about what might give me the best back and pelvic support, ( I also have pelvic alignment issues) , I chose a hybrid mattress. The Flexus Quadra-Flex has 8 inches of zoned pocket coil springs, they are Texas Pocket Springs, and 3 inches of the medium ILD (28, ) natural Talalay latex for the top layer. I did discuss this with Flexus. It is covered by a cotton and wool cover. This is a very heavy mattress, 128 poundsâŚWe put it on a newly slatted sturdy platform bed and I added a new one inch coir/latex bed rug for extra support under the pocket coils. So, the foundation is first rate.
The first two weeks I slept just on the mattress , with a thin Luna mattress protector, and a sheet. I hoped to have less lower back and right hip pain when I woke up after a nightâs sleep. This was not happening. When I tried to go to sleep, while the mattress felt âspringyâ or âbouncyâ, I could feel a âpush backâ of sorts, probably from the coils under the latex layer, especially in my lower back and pelvic region, and, I could not sleep at all on my left side as it felt too hard on my hip. Even on my back all night I woke up with lower back and hip pain. So, oddly, you could view that 3 inches of talalay, as both too hard, and too softâŚ
What else I tried and results:
Adding a cheap old 1 inch or so egg crate foam, my back and hip felt terrible, did not make it one night.
Adding the old 2 inch gel memory foam topper I had saved, tried this for over a week. At first it did not seem too bad as I could not feel the springs push up, nor did my hip hurt when I tried to go to sleep on my side, but after several nights I started to feel like I was sinking in more and more and had quite bad lower back and hip pain again in the morning. I removed it.
Then I ordered a 2 inch Sleep on Latex SOFT Dunlop latex foam topper (19 ILD) in an organic cover. I now had two inches of soft Dunlop foam over three inches of medium Talalay foam. I felt like I sunk in too much, it was very bouncy, and both my lower back and my hip hurt quite a bit in the morning. I tried this for two days. I was disappointed that this topper did not help, as it seems like a good quality topper.
I then tried, one night, the same 2" soft Dunlop topper in the guest room over an old but rarely used OMF Regency mattress, with intact springs, and there was also very little difference in how I felt as I could get to sleep well, but my back and hip both hurt quite a bit in the morning.
Finally I have taken, from the guest bed , the older cotton fiber stuffed mattress pad which seems intact, maybe an inch or so thick, and put this directly over the Flexus mattress with no other topper. I think I cannot feel the spring pushback, as much, perhaps a little, and I am able to sleep on my left side but it is still slightly firm for me. In the week I have done this, I have had the first three days when my back and hip hurt much less than usual in the AM, and then the last 4 where they were about the same, but the pain usually seems to subside when I get up and walk around. So it is betterâŚoverall.
At this point I have a week or so to return or exchange the Sleep on Latex topper. It could only be exchanged for a 1 inch, 2 inch or 3 inch topper and their only latex is Dunlop in soft,( which I have) medium, or firm.
I have about month to exchange the medium latex layer on the Flexus mattress . I thought that the exchange could only be for Talalay latex, but found out this AM that in fact they can exchange a layer for a Talalay or a Dunlop latex layer, in soft, medium or firm.
I have tried mattresses I disliked immediately: two Tempur-pedics which felt like cement, several popular foam bed in a box type mattresses, ,(eg. Leesa, Casper, Pac Bed, etc.) too uncomfortable and hard , a Savvy Rest all latex mattress with soft, soft , medium Dunlop layers, way too bouncy and soft as was the OMF Serenity latex mattress.
I did like lying on the OMF heavily padded but too tall and weighty Orthopedic mattress. The only other mattresses I have tried (briefly) and liked were a very expensive Savvy Rest soft, medium, firm layers Dunlop all latex mattress, and a Berkeley Ergonomics mattress with two sets of coils (one micro) and layers of cotton and wool with a one inch layer of soft latex in there somewhere, but also expensive with a financially painful return policy .
I clearly need good support for my back, and for proper alignment, but some softness for my hip and my fibromyalgia. Are there any other types of toppers that might make the Flexus mattress better? Or, a new mattress pad, and if so, what type? If possible, I would like to keep the Flexus mattress as it should be a good support for my back and spine.
Is there any reasonable chance that if I exchanged the medium Talalay latex layer of the Flexus for a Dunlop medium, which would probably feel a little firmer, then put on the soft 2 inch Dunlop latex topper, that this configuration might be different enough to work?
If I get another Orthopedic OMF mattress, and go with the same one I had, the Luxury Firm, I am sure I will have to put some kind of topper over it, and I am not sure what would be the best. Their springs, knotted offset coil, are a firm gauge, 12 and ž, six turns, and they are not zoned as they are in the Flexus. There may be other mattresses that could work, that I have not considered and if anyone has an idea, I am open to thinking about it.
Iâm looking for any ideas here, Mattress Underground is the best!