need help deciding on a mattress....

hey!

Looking for something soft-medium (about a 4-5 on firmness).

So far I’ve narrowed it down to helix and Brooklyn bedding. Seems like the helix is a better bed all together…better materials, more expensive etc. But my concern is the mattress appears flat (no contours or grooves) vs. the brooklyn bedding which looks more quilted with deep grooves (basically looks like it can hug more which is what I want).

Which is better for me?

I’m also open to other brands: ghostbed, zotto, amerisleep or anything else
I’ve eliminated tuft needle as it seems more firm and purple (heard the polymer takes adjusting)

Hi christeawortham,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :slight_smile:

Unfortunately, there are also no “standard” definitions or consensus of opinions for firmness ratings and different manufacturers can rate their mattresses very differently than others so a mattress that one manufacturer rates as being a specific firmness could be rated very differently by another manufacturer. Different people can also have very different perceptions of firmness and softness compared to others as well and a mattress that feels firm for one person can feel like “medium” for someone else or even “soft” for someone else (or vice versa) depending on their body type, sleeping style, physiology, their frame of reference based on what they are used to, and their individual sensitivity and perceptions. There are also different types of firmness and softness that different people may be sensitive to that can affect how they “rate” a mattress as well (see post #15 here), so different people can also have very different opinions on how two mattresses compare in terms of firmness and some people may rate one mattress as being firmer than another and someone else may rate them the other way around. This is all just to point out the difficulty in categorizing mattresses by softness ratings, and further emphasizes that your personal opinion when testing a model is the overall most important indicator of what is or is not soft-medium.

Both the Brooklyn Bedding Best Mattress Ever (BME) and the Helix mattress use high quality and durable materials. The BME is available in three different firmnesses, using latex for the comfort layers and 2 lb polyfoam for the base core. The Helix uses a questionnaire and algorithm to come up with a configuration that they feel will best suit your BMI and sleeping style. Their comfort layers are combinations of poly foam (1.8 lb minimum) and a microcoil unit on top of a 1.8 lb polyfoam core. I wouldn’t call the materials in one mattress as “better” than the other (the BME does use a higher density polyfoam core), but instead I would refer to them as choosing different components, but still high quality. And price is not an indicator of the quality of any mattress and I wouldn’t recommend using that to judge durability or quality of componentry. But it is certainly an important part of anyone’s personal value equation.

Both mattresses can be had in configurations that will contour quite well to your body and be very point elastic. The BME uses a thin quilt panel, where the Helix is a smooth top, and both can contour very well for sleeping in any position.

While I can certainly help with “how” to choose, it’s not possible to make specific suggestions or recommendations for either a mattress, manufacturers/retailers, or combinations of materials or components because the first “rule” of mattress shopping is to always remember that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved that are unique to each person to use a formula or for anyone to be able to predict or make a specific suggestion or recommendation about which mattress or combination of materials and components or which type of mattress would be the best “match” for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, or PPP or how a mattress will “feel” to you or compare to another mattress based on specs (either yours or a mattress), sleeping positions, health conditions, or “theory at a distance” that can possibly be more reliable than your own careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in step 4 of the tutorial) or your own personal sleeping experience (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here).

I’d suggest that you start by reading the mattress shopping tutorial here, and two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure you’ve read are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best “match” for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, and PPP that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the “value” of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after a purchase if your choice doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for).

The next most important part of the value of a mattress purchase is durability which is all about how long you will sleep well on a mattress. This is the part of your research that you can’t see or “feel” and assessing the durability and useful life of a mattress depends on knowing the specifics of its construction and the type and quality of the materials inside it regardless of the name of the manufacturer on the label or how a mattress feels in a showroom or when it is relatively new so I would always make sure that you find out the information listed here so you can compare the quality of the materials and components to the durability guidelines here to make sure there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to the durability and useful life of a mattress before making any purchase.

When you can’t test a mattress in person (like the BME and Helix you are considering), then the most reliable source of guidance is always a more detailed phone conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart and who can help “talk you through” the specifics of their mattresses and the options they have available that may be the best “match” for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked or other mattresses you are considering that they are familiar with, and the “averages” of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about “matching” their specific mattress designs and firmness levels to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences (or to other mattresses that they are familiar with) than anyone else.

In its simplest form … choosing the “best possible” mattress for any particular person really comes down to FIRST finding a few knowledgeable and transparent retailers and/or manufacturers (either locally or online) that sell the types of mattresses that you are most interested in that are in a budget range you are comfortable with and that you have confirmed will provide you with the all the information you need about the materials and components inside the mattresses they sell so you will be able to make informed choices and meaningful comparisons between mattresses and then …

  1. Careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in the tutorial) to make sure that a mattress is a good match for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, and PPP … and/or that you are comfortable with the options you have available to return, exchange, or “fine tune” the mattress and any costs involved if you can’t test a mattress in person or aren’t confident that your mattress is a suitable choice.

  2. Checking to make sure that there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress you are considering relative to your weight/BMI range that could compromise the durability and useful life of the mattress.

  3. Comparing your finalists for “value” based on #1 and #2 and all the other parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you.

You can use the search feature of the forum to pull up more information about the brands you listed (I’d advise caution with the Amerisleep brand), or you can read through the simplified choice thread here for a consolidated place of information about many of the one-size-fits-all mattresses.

Phoenix