Ommage sleep - amazing price on Talalay latex

[phoenix]

Hi latexinterst,

Apologize for my blunder,my reply was buried under the thread so I started a new one with the intention of praising latex mattresses as a great sleep material,sorry it was to promoting.

Absolutely no worries at all!

In regards to your question I purchased the 10" Natural Luxury Latex Mattress, and my father is so pleased. I will post again later as you request on how he is sleeping on latex.

That mattress uses multiple layers of Talalay latex, certainly a high quality material. I’m looking forward to future comments from your father.

I love this forum and the wealth of information you provide. Thank you for your care and truthfulness to us as consumers.

Thank you very much for your kind words.

Phoenix

[Cloudrider]

Phoenix: We shot an Ommage Mattress Unboxing YouTube video, our first ever. We couldn’t find any Ommage videos when we were shopping, thought it might be helpful to someone to see the mattress up close. We are both delighted with the purchase at end of week 1. Now, can someone set us straight on healthy mattress protectors for a 10" depth!?! LOL…

Ommage Unboxing Video

Unboxing the Ommage Natural Latex Mattress

[phoenix]

Hi Cloudrider,

It looks like you had fun shooting your video and editing it – thanks! :cheer:

Phoenix

[NessaO]

Hello all,

First thank you to Phoenix for maintaining such a thoughtful and education based forum. It’s made mattress research so much easier.

Some background: I’m not new to either memory or latex foam for sleep. I’ve had the same talalay latex pillow for nearly ten years now and it is incredible. My partner and I have been sleeping on a high quality memory foam, but I hate how warm it gets. After two moves and nearly twenty years, it’s finally starting to it’s ability to isolate motion, etc as well.

We’ve tried out latex beds in show rooms any number​ of times. I’ve always loved the feel - so supportive while still feeling plush and luxurious.

After a lot of research we finally pulled the trigger and ordered the 10" all talalay mattress from Ommage. With it’s blending layers, I thought I’d locked into something that would have enough give to feel plush and be soft enough for this side sleeper while still being supportive.

Unfortunately, it is quite firm feeling, and rather bouncy. It does not feel anything like any of the latex mattesses I’ve tried. In an effort to give it a fair try, I’ve been sleeping on it this past week and it consistently leaves my shoulder and neck very unhappy, nevermind that the feel is decidedly …springy.

I’m rather at a loss as for how to proceed. Am I crazy when it comes to how it seems bouncy to me, possibly even defective? Or do I need to look into mirco layering additional softer IDL on top?

Cheers,
Nessa

[phoenix]

Hi NessaO,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum!

First thank you to Phoenix for maintaining such a thoughtful and education based forum. It’s made mattress research so much easier.

You’re welcome, and thank you for the kind words.

After a lot of research we finally pulled the trigger and ordered the 10" all talalay mattress from Ommage. With it’s blending layers, I thought I’d locked into something that would have enough give to feel plush and be soft enough for this side sleeper while still being supportive.

The Serenity uses a 6" 36 ILD Talalay core, on top of which is a 2" 24 ILD Talalay layer and then a 2" 19 ILD Talalay layer. The combination in your mattress is common for many people who sleep upon their back/side, but of course that is a general statement.

Unfortunately, it is quite firm feeling, and rather bouncy. It does not feel anything like any of the latex mattesses I’ve tried. In an effort to give it a fair try, I’ve been sleeping on it this past week and it consistently leaves my shoulder and neck very unhappy, nevermind that the feel is decidedly …springy.

Unless you tried a latex mattress in a showroom using the exact same type of latex in the same configuration using the same ILDs, it wouldn’t be a representative comparison of what you currently have at home.

Latex can have a very buoyant feel and is quite resilient, and it would be different in feel from a “traditional” memory foam mattress, which is very good at deadening motion. The “bouncy” feel you describe (everyone’s tolerance and description of this is of course different) is quite normal for latex, especially the Talalay latex with the flexible covering used by Ommage.

Latex has an unusual combination of surface softness and deeper firmness/support that comes from it’s elasticity, it’s point elasticity (ability to conform to the shape of a body) and it’s compression modulus (the ability to get firmer faster with deeper compression than other types of foam). This means that it can enhance the pressure relieving layers above it because of its surface softness and point elasticity but it is also very supportive and can “stop” the heavier parts of the body from sinking in too deeply. It is also very resilient (it returns a high percentage of the energy of compression instead of absorbing it like memory foam which has very low resilience) so it can enhance the “feel” of the mattress by making it more responsive and more adaptable to different body profiles and sleeping positions rather than the less responsive feeling of memory foam or the stiffer and less adaptable characteristics of polyfoam.

I’m rather at a loss as for how to proceed. Am I crazy when it comes to how it seems bouncy to me, possibly even defective? Or do I need to look into mirco layering additional softer IDL on top?

Having slept on memory foam for 20 years, this type of product would certainly be a departure from what you’ve been accustomed these past two decades. And while this buoyant feel is different, it wouldn’t be described as a “defect”, but a more supportive feel than what you are used to. While the quality of the componentry is certainly high, it could be that you do simply prefer the feel of memory foam.

I don’t know how long you’ve had this mattress, but I would tell you to take some time to get used to the feel and let your body adjust to the different characteristics of latex (you do have a 100 day trial). As for your shoulder and neck, you may wish to reevaluate your pillow and make sure that it is providing proper alignment with your new mattress for your sleeping style. If you desire to keep the mattress but think that you still need a bit more plushness, there is an option for a topper from Ommage in 2" or 3" in plush or Medium/Firm, and I would phone Ommage directly with your concerns before deciding to make such a purchase and get their advice as to what they think might work best for you.

In the end, it could be that latex, or at least in this configuration, isn’t a “match” for your preferences, but I would try to give it as much time as you can, as you do have quite a bit of “learned alignment” from your previous mattress and it is a change in componentry.

Phoenix