how about essential? medium firm ? i know i read your post and their reply --good for you
but i am getting down on choices.
they have a floor model
-then there is berkley ergonomics oslo coil soft on top firm base C is what they said could pay my own shipping at 700 dollars,but it sounds nice ?
i was tild i may break a thing in the box so it could goon an adjustable
thanks
Hi kayla,
[quote]how about essential? medium firm ? i know i read your post and their reply --good for you
but i am getting down on choices.
they have a floor model[/quote]
Iām not clear on which mattress you are referring to here. Could you supply a link?
This is certainly a high quality mattress and there are no weak links in the design so if you have confirmed that itās a good match for you in terms of PPP and it compares well with your other finalists based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are important to you then it would certainly be well worth considering.
Phoenix
ESSENTIA is their 8 inch model most popular one.
it said online 8 inches wasnāt enough for me and but i get to at least try this floor model
NO I do not get to try the berkley mattress
because they do not have the model in stock.
just buy and wait i also would pay 700 on shipping if i need it sooner and i have only 10 days left
i dont know how many times i can post here that one cannot determine PPP if you canāt try a mattress
and here you canāt try them they donāt stock hardly anything.
i am too big for most and i can barely write as my neck is killing me from sleeping in tmy bed.
i give up i just give up.
Hi kayla,
OK ā¦ I didnāt know what you meant by āessentialā but I am certainly familiar with āEssentiaā.
You can read some of my thoughts about Essentia and some of the misleading claims they make and some forum discussions with them in this thread and this thread and posts #3 and #4 here). Needless to say I would be very cautious here.
[quote]just buy and wait i also would pay 700 on shipping if i need it sooner and i have only 10 days left
i dont know how many times i can post here that one cannot determine PPP if you canāt try a mattress
and here you canāt try them they donāt stock hardly anything.[/quote]
All I can do is repeat some of the information I have included in my earlier replies. There is more about the different ways to choose a mattress (locally or online) in post #2 here that can help you reduce the risk involved in each of them whether you are able to test them before a purchase or not. Iām not clear why you havenāt been looking more closely at some of the other options that are available to you that you donāt seem to be seriously considering.
I would also re-read the more detailed comments and suggestions I made in post #6 earlier in this topic
Phoenix
Hello, I just made an account on this forum but I have been stealthy reading it for a few months now because like most of the readers I assume I had to shop for a new mattress and this website has been my primary source of information in the process. It may not have lead me to follow all of the recommendations but it did at least help me at least in knowing what to look for.
Since it was brought on this thread and because I intended to return the favor of having information by giving hopefully a relatively unbiased review of the Essentia Classic 8 mattress I have owned for a month now (and then update that review in a year or so maybe). I feel that my opinion would be welcome for this because I found it frustrating that I couldnāt trust most sources and reviews I saw on the internet about this product because at least my feeling is that tthe Essentia company doesnāt come from nowhere and that it probably, like I assume most companies do, tampered with the review websites.
Thus I intend to try to do an in-depth review to share my user experience. My knowledge in mattresses is relatively limited, I come from a low-middle class family and to me the Essentia Classic 8 even at Black Friday pricing was already much more than I thought I would ever pay for a mattress so I can in no way compare to all the more expensive alternatives around which are not large brands. I am also not a chemist so I wouldnāt be able to verify most of the claims made by Essentia about their product unless there is something specific to look for once we really own the product.
I will write a review in a separate thread in a few days (Iāll put a link here to there of course), unzip the cover and show how it is inside, take pictures, give my impressions of their range of product and my experience because I also visited an Essentia outlet prior to my purchase because there is one around where I live. I am just writing this in case there would be some specific questions that I could answer at the same time that I shall write my review to make it as complete and useful as possible. Again I only intend to do this to return the favor of having had the chance to access quality information on this website and hopefully contribute with what I can tell about what turned out to be my choice.
this site is very useful for purchasing a mattress ,lots of work put into it and many people contributing as well.This is a good thing ,and one has to take the information and navigate for themselves and find what they need.
I am sure it has helped many.And I too have gained knowledge.
One can gain the information then decide for themselves.
at least this information is here and that is a big plus.
that is all i have to post.
thank you
In ten days I will have surgery so it is not possible with my issues to find mattress in two weeks,at least for me.
suddenly TMASC has come up with an alternative ,green sleep ,extra soft,soft and firm layers no foundation 3800.00 and it is not in my city .however i must go across town(limping ) try the one half of the vinchesa and then wait weeks for it to come from their other store unless I hire a truckā¦ and get it myself,.i bought the adjustable from them and NOTHING HAS ANY RETURN,
you keep asking me why I donāt go to the other ones,I told you one sent me to baratric beds ,
and the other wont talk to me .who know? Maybe you could e mail me privately on that one.I cannot post this on the forum.
I would hope that you would qualify that only in US is it easy to get a bed in two weeks,
now I talked to berkely ergo and she hasnāt called me back.
guy form TMASC said i would break the box spring.he wants me to purchase a sleeptek med med which is a rock -and then a 1000 topper which totals 4900.
I told you this in a another post so I have looked.
tried essential ,they have a floor model they can sell and they werenāt half bad.except the are 8 inches and you think its what polyfoam,actually i wouldnāt mind that .
then there dis the lago navous waiting -shopkeeper cant take it out of the box because she doesnāt have the manpower?even tho there are men making deliveries form their store.
remember it is talalay and their floor model is dunlop.
so there it is ,and i am so tired i could scream,
i bought a pillow from essential cause i canāt move my neck anymore thanks to tempur,
on a positive note,here is what i think i need a medium firm layer of dunlop ,6-8 inches and then a soft talalay topper of 3 inches.that is aprox 9 nine inch mattress but no one to make it for me.NO ONE .
if they could the cost would be over 4500 dollars ,so please do not say one more time that these mattress are any cheaper cause they are not.this is the deal and only essential does a trial ,that is it,whatever people are telling you in my area it is NOT accurate ā¦unless of course you are perfect weight with no issues at all ,then maybe I would believe it.
you didnāt directly answer my question who the heck is telling me the truth here? Is essential ok for my weight it says no on net ,does it stink less than temopur ?
Then there the guy in bc who would have made me one no references nothing no trial no nothing if i sent him 3900.what the H?
I am beyond frustrated here and the clock keeps ticking.this experience is not good i have other things to get ready for surgery and no one wants to offer a bed except essentia.and a floor model 3500 lago navous with no warranty .
pretty soon i am just going to hand over my moneyā¦to anyone with a solutionā¦
oh and green sleep at the store for that ridiculous price ,no warranty and no return and no delivery.at 3900?
HOW CAN YOU THINK THAT NAY OF THESE SELLERS ARE FAIR OR EVEN READILY AVAILABLE?
PERHAPS YOU CAN HELP ME ORDER ONE PERSONALLY ?
i like this forum and I am a good person but the info is in- accurate for my region.just frustrated,canāt you see that?
and now i go to survey with no possibility of rest .
Hi Kayla,
Lets take things from a different approach ā¦ one step at a time.
Can you list the local stores that you have looked at from the Calgary list (or that arenāt on the list if you have considered others) and let me know your finalist at each of them (the mattress that you would purchase there if you had no other options than to purchase from that particular retailer or manufacturer)?
Then can you list the online manufacturers and retailers you have talked with and your finalist with each of them as well?
If you can include just this information and nothing else I may be able to point out any that you may have missed that may also be worth considering or help you decide between your finalists based on all the criteria that are most important to you.
Phoenix
Hi kayla,
I am trying to help you take a more āstep by stepā approach.
It would be helpful if you can list each specific manufacturer or retailer you have either visited locally or talked to on the phone from the online list (step 3) (only the list ā¦ nothing else) and let me know your finalist at each of them (step 4) before working on step 5 which is your final choice.
Phoenix
Hi Phoenix,
soundless good keep it simple
1- tmasc-loooked at sleeptek 3800.00 plus 1000. for berkely soft topper.the man there wont sell me the green sleep -not right for me he says.tried different firmness of sleeptek in showroom - no pressure relief,
Now berkley spring mattress there too.but no trial on oslo model.2500.00 only can have mattress he says i will break the box,I want the box too.but he can be very firm.
and today called when i was ill and said can do everything over the phone ,was wanting to get on with it.I should decide between the two and pay to get it going.how can decide if havenāt tried berkely?I really dont have 4800 more and why can i Not try green sleep said he wouldnāt sell it to me.I would like a spring mattress but those are built with a special box ,how does he know I will break it? is he psychic? just a thought.
this is where I got the adjustable.so berkley can go on adjustable.Now sleeptek 6 weeks out -and berkely like 3 or something.This fellow has done this before tried to decide for me,but wanted to research,.FINALIST here might be berkley springs if i could TRY IT.
2-the one said go to health and get bariatric-couldnt help- was rude -wont name them
3-rivas-selling floor model of OMI (Organicpedic) the lago in talaly another no try but going back to showroom to see,can get the terra very expensive -6500.the lago floor model 3500 and includes box could be use on adjustable for surgery,now i have condo no place to store anything. Tried dunlop lago and was ok but not so great with alignment,could get hand in behind very easily.also tried soft greensleep there and loved it.not sure why the above retailer wont sell it to me or at least let me try.They sell a few other brands.FINALIST here would be terra if could afford it.and green sleep but lady said some make impressions.Lag Navous needs another try but she canāt open the floor model.???see what i mean
4-okay then there is essentia.
now keep in mind I like foams and need to transition out of tempur.Without pain.FINALIST HERE would be essential 8 medium firm not soft.I sink in softs usually.they give 60 days trial On NEW
Girl there had been in car accident and she sold me a pillow that solved my neck pain! I could hug her for that!!!
tomorrow I can try their floor model softer 8 ā¦but i think firmer in that would be better.this softer may be available now I asked if i sunk thru any of them she said no and wouldnāt sell me one I did sink in.Now these were easier than tempur to move in and pressure relief a big deal,going back to try floor model at 4 sunday so need some direction.about 2100. another poster said they tried just polyurethane with fibro myagia and it worked,as horrible as poly is.
5- sleep country regular beds-like beauty rest -tempur etc. must use -soft topper on them -horrid things.
Sorry for the info but there are two options,stay in tempur ,and get thru surgery ,was looking for an immediate replacement,or get replacement and if not good move on to another ā¦
Can I have a spring bed? and why would i put it on an adjustable ,I just would like a bed.box and all.
now as i said I a big fan of memory foam for pressure relieving. if i can MOVE.and wonder how to adjust to springs from here?
I have a love hate relationship with tempur.moslty HATE
as i sink and heat issues .But essentia was supportive,noT the best movement but better than tempur. I dont care whats in a mattress as long as it isnāt toxic like tempur and hot.I would like a natural bed but so unsure which at this point.I was told I needed a 9 or 10 inch minimum ? is this correct.
ONLINE -PLUSH BEDS -I PAY SHIP AND THE PURE POLY ONE (NO SHIP HERE)AND BERKLEY AND EUROPEAN MATTRESS CANT SHIP HERE.
ALSO EVEN LOOKED AT SLEEP NUMBER UGHH -HORRIBLE I THINK I DONT KNOW.
LAST ONE IN VANCOUVER -LATEX GOLD havenāt talked ot hm for awhile -he said bed and box latex ,and really knew what he was talking about.but no trial no seeing not sure ?
bottom line only two immediates and four possibilities down the road.I will use adjustable for surgery but dont mind dumping it down the road =HEIGHTeasier to get in abed that is higher with a bad knee.I have 13 in tempur now,and 16 in adjustable and iron frame =29 in but best would be 24-28 in .anyhting lower a no go I am 5ā9āā
clock is ticking for me to surgery so ty sorry hope i didnāt make it complicated.
k
Hi kayla,
Thatās much more information that I was hoping for because I only wanted the name of each retailer/manufacturer you have dealt with and the name of a single mattress from each of them where you had decided on as a āhypothetical finalistā but I will use the information you provided to help you take one more step in the process. You would be using the information in post #13 here to decide on a single finalist at each store (not several possibilities ā¦ just a single finalist where you have ruled out all the other mattresses that are sold at that store for any reasons that are important to you).
[b]http://www.tmasc.ca/store/sfnt.html[/b]
'Good for him. Thatās a sign of an ethical dealer that would rather lose a sale than sell you a mattress that they are reasonably certain wouldnāt be suitable for you.
He is giving you an educated and well informed opinion based on his many years of knowledge and experience. Again ā¦ this is a sign of a conscientious retailer that doesnāt want to sell you something that they believe would either be unsuitable for you (and result in an unhappy customer) or that would have higher odds of being a warranty issue.
It sounds like you are either considering or are still deciding whether to consider ā¦
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The Sleepek Euro IV (with the BE 2" topper
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One of the BE mattresses (you didnāt say which one). Which one are you still considering? If you canāt test it are you still considering it?
Have I missed any of the options here that you are still considering here?
Since the SleepTek is 6 weeks for delivery and the BE is 3 weeks does this exclude all of your āfinalistsā here right off the top or would you still be open to continuing to sleep what you have until one of these could be delivered. In other words ā¦ are you still considering any of their mattresses?
Donāt forget I would like you to narrow down your choices to only one āhypothetical finalistā at each retailer based on where things stand and what you know regardless of whether you will or would actually end up buying it. This would be based on your testing and on all the other parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you. If your finalist is not a choice that you would want to consider compared to your other finalists at other stores then it will be easy to rule out in the next step but first is deciding who to deal with and narrowing down your choices to only one at each retailer is what we are trying to do here.
[b]http://www.rivasecostore.com/[/b]
It sounds like you either have considered or are still deciding whether to consider ā¦
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The Lago floor model
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The Terra
Which one is your finalist here or do you still plan to do any further testing or research at this store before deciding on your āhypotheticalā finalist?
[b]http://www.myessentia.com/locations/calgary/[/b]
So I understand that you have decided on the Classic 8 (you mentioned the Essential 8 but I donāt see this on their website). I didnāt realize that they had a softer version of the Classic 8 (it also isnāt on their website) but it sounds like you are still planning on doing some further testing here anyway ā¦ is that correct? When you have done your additional testing let me know which mattress is your āhypothetical finalistā here.
5- sleep country regular beds-like beauty rest -tempur etc. must use -soft topper on them -horrid things.
I can only help you with mattresses where you are able to find out all the materials and components inside it so I canāt help you with any of these (and I would avoid all of them) so if you decide to go in this direction you would be on your own (and making a very high risk choice IMO).
OTHERS:
The Calgary list includes 8 options. With one of these the website isnāt functioning (Intellibed) and it would probably be safe to rule out Ikea so that leaves 4 more options that you havenāt included in your list. Which of these have you considered and outside of the store you are having an issue with (which will be obvious through a process of elimination but you donāt need to go into detail about why) ā¦ what are your finalists at each of the remaining stores (or why are you excluding them)?
I also linked to a list of online Canadian options in my previous replies ā¦ which of these have you considered or talked with (outside of TMASC and Halstead which are local to you) and what is your finalist at each of them that you wish to consider (or why are you ruling out the ones that you arenāt considering) ā¦ especially the ones that sell latex latex hybrid mattresses which you appear to be most interested in?
Phoenix
here is the bed I feel may be mine
min 6 inch solid medium - firm āqualityā possibly organic Gla? certified dunlop core topped by a one inch medium -soft dunlop layer topped by a 1 to 1.5 inch softest talaly latex .
double wrapped in pure certified top quality, organic cotton. no wool, thanks.
Soft yet supportive.
however ā¦a medium firm essentia would be superb for healing!
BUT he essential would have to be at least 10 inches thick minimum.with only 2-2.5 of those inches being a medium firm top.
that is not possible.
āGood for him. Thatās a sign of an ethical dealer that would rather lose a sale than sell you a mattress that they are reasonably certain wouldnāt be suitable for you.ā
YES HE ALSO HAD A TEMPORARY SOLUTION FOR ME HE SAID AND CALLED NEW YEARS EVE BUT NEVER LEFT A MESSAGE.I WAS ILL THAT EVE,SO NO IDEA HE CALLED WITHOUT A MESSAGE.ANYWAY HE SOLD MY SOULUTION ,AND I REALIZE EVERYONE MUST MAKE MONEYā¦I ASKED WHAT THE TEMP SOLUTION WAS AND HE WOULDNāT TELL MEā¦SO I GUESS I MISSED OUT . I COULD BE SOLD THE PROPER FIRMNESS IN A GREENSLEEP PROBABLY.
THEN HE CALLED TO FINALIZE A SALE ON PHONE,I WAS TOO ILL TO REALLY SPEAK AT THAT TIME.AND NOT READY WITH MY FINAL DECIISON.
AS FOR THE BOX TO THE BERKLEY THE BERKLEY LADY THINKS IT WOULD BE OK BUT IT HAS TO COME TO HIS SHOP.IF THAT WERE MY CHOICE THEN I WOULD LIKE BOTH BOX AND BED, SINCE ITS MY BED,AND MY CHOICE.
ANYWAY I HAVE DISCOVERED SOME POSSIBILITYS AFTER MUCH SEARCHING AND LEARNING FORM THIS SITEā¦THERE ARE TWO -3 FINALISTS ,HERE THEY ARE.
1-A CUSTOM MADE CERTIFIED GOL ORGANIC,6 INCH CORE MEDIUM FIRM DUNLOP LATEX,NEXT LAYER A 2 IN MEDIUM SOFT DUNLOP AND LASTLY A 2.5- 3 IN INCH SOFTEST TALALAY LATEX FOR PRESSURE RELIEF.THIS WOULD BE "DOUBLE "WRAPPED IN THE SOFTEST ORGANIC NATURAL COTTON .DELIVERED AND WITH A FULL WARRANTY.REASONABLE PRICE.
2- ESSENTIA WOULD RULE FOR HEALING AND PRESSURE POINTS.BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE 8 INCHES OF LATEX AND 2 INCHES SOFT FOAM ON TOP. CUSTOM MADE.UNSURE IF THIS IS POSSIBLE
3-WOULD LIKE TO TRY THE OSLO BERLKELY BED THAT WOULD BE THIRD.
STILL CONSIDERING ALTERNATIVES AS TO WHAT IS AVAILABLE TO ME NOW. BUT SO MUCH CLOSER.
THANK YOU.
Hi kayla,
Ouch ā¦ my eyes!
All caps are the equivalent of āyellingā on a forum and are very difficult to read :unsure:
Iām assuming that this means that you are ruling this option out unless you can try it first ā¦ is that correct?
If this is correct then that means you are currently down to two āfinalistsā unless you are also considering some of the other options I was asking about in my previous reply.
You appear to have several other alternatives that you havenāt considered yet (depending on your reply to my previous post) but if these are your two āfinalistsā then I would choose between them based on the 3 most important parts of the āvalueā of a mattress purchase in post #13 here.
These are ā¦
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Your confidence that both of these mattresses would be a good match for you in terms of PPP. This is the most important part of the value" of a mattress purchase.
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Checking to make sure that neither of these mattresses have any weak links in their design relative to your weight.
3: Deciding which of these two mattress are the best āvalueā based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you.
Only you can decide about #1 (testing for suitability) based on your own personal testing or experience.
For #2 (checking for durability) ā¦
Option #1: If the latex in this option is the softest available Talalay (14 - 15 ILD) then would be less durable at your weight than firmer latex layers and may be a weak link in the mattress. Having said that ā¦ if this would be a separate topper or is a component mattress with separate layers inside a zip cover then it can be easily replaced without replacing the whole mattress so the durability of any individual layer may be less important relative to your ācomfortā and PPP.
Option #2: Assuming they can do a custom build ā¦ whether this has any weak links would depend on the type and quality/durability of any āsoft foamā they would be using in the upper layers.
#3 (comparing for value): How each of your mattresses compares to the other finalist you are considering based on all the other criteria that are important to you would include the prices of course as well as the options each of them have available after a purchase to either exchange the mattress or individual layers or return the mattress just in case your choice doesnāt turn out as well as you hoped for when you actually sleep on your mattress in āreal lifeā.
Questions (in addition to the questions in my last post)
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Have you tested both of these specific mattresses and designs in person as you would purchase them?
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If you have ā¦ how confident are you that both of them are a good match for you in terms of PPP?
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If you havenāt tested them in person or you arenāt completely confident that they are a suitable match for you then are you completely comfortable with the options you would have after a purchase if your choice turns out to be a āmistakeā in terms of PPP?
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What are the exchange or return options for each of your finalists?
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What are the prices (delivered) for each of your finalists?
One step at a time ā¦ and hopefully you still have the time to consider some of the other options I asked about in my previous reply which may be better value than either of the mattresses that are currently in your list of finalists.
Phoenix
Phoenix
Urgent -TY for your help but I may have found the bed I need at a good price.
Sorry about the caps ughh I couldnt see them, my apologies
I have specific question -
Now i may have found my bed with some choices.
I will list them
1-4 in top 24 ld talay latex then 1inch memory foam then5 inches of a poly strong foam -tried very soft but donāt sink thru floor model -inexpensive -onlu flaw may be a bit too soft but nice pressure relief and builder transparent . All the following beds work on adjustable .
2-2 -3 in talaly same density and the rest a softer poly -nice firm -less pressure relief and no memory foam in core .
3 -custom 3 in talaly on top of 7 in poly -firm yet supportive and this would be interesting because the core is fairly soft but supportive . Was able to try in 2 in latex and poly. Wanted to add 1 in of latex more top for pressure relief.
4 -3 in new cool memory foam and 7 inches poly core . Nice supportive but the memory foam is less so easier to move and cooler . Still memory foam and was concerned about that . Also tried with 2 in memory foam comfy but needed more pressure relief.
I did not sink thru any of these 24 ILD is soft and I liked it .i have no clue on the poly but no objection either do you ?
Is poly a bad core ? It can be very supportive And bends well. Curious whst you make of these 4 custom beds for me.
I liked number 1fir softness and Nimber 3 fior support . Although I dunk thru none of them and I got to try all of them ,
Iām so happy and they are good prices . I would ask for your opinion on poly core and soft latex on these configurations. ?
I can have number 1 right away and the rest on a week. I am thinking to move away from memory foam as it is not as movable. However bed number 1was great IT was bouncy ! A concern . Bed 3 was much firmer and less expensive foam core but still soft .
I may just get my bed before mon next week. Prices are in the 18000 range . I would appreciate your thoughts knowing my weight and arthritis -fibro issues thank you so much !
Ps pretty excited to find bed possibilities . Wondering if poly with a water based glue is ok? I need to order soon. TY 
Hi Kayla,
[quote]i have no clue on the poly but no objection either do you ?
Is poly a bad core ? It can be very supportive And bends well. Curious whst you make of these 4 custom beds for me.[/quote]
If you can provide the information here about the mattresses you are considering then Iād be happy to make some comments about the materials inside them or help you identify any potential weak links in their design. Without this information itās not possible for me to make any meaningful comments about a mattress.
$18,000 ??? :unsure:
All I can say to this is that the price of a mattress isnāt related to whether it would be suitable for you in terms of PPP and you are in a budget range that is very much higher than you would need to find a suitable, durable, and good value mattress IMO. Are they really that much more suitable, more durable, and are the differences between them and many other mattresses that are in much lower budget ranges really enough to justify that kind of price?
Post #2 here and the posts it links to has more information about safe, natural, organic, āchemical freeā, and green mattresses and mattress materials that can help you sort through some of the marketing information and terminology that you will encounter in the industry and can help you differentiate between them and decide on the types of materials you are most comfortable having in your mattress and help you answer āhow safe is safe enough for meā. These types of issues are complex and are generally specific to each person and their individual sensitivities, circumstances, and specific criteria. Water based glue is generally a āsafeā material and polyfoam that is CertPUR certified would also be āsafeā enough for most people although some people that are more sensitive (or have issues such as MCS or multiple chemical sensitivity) may still choose to avoid it.
Phoenix
Oh I am so sorry using i phone I meant 1800 thatās better right?
And it is dorimer Beds -here in town
-so sorry -the foam is ceripur they have a website -on rethinking the 4 in tally latex is very soft and probably not good but the support in bed is okay With the foam. Pressure relief good but I remrmber someone saying can make a bed softer but not a soft be harder ?
So I will ask about the poly tomorrow as I read your blog1.8 right for someone like me?
Also bed number 3 uses a cheaper poly a bit softer -I will ask density of that as well.
The only one available immediately is bed number 1 floor model-
This one is the softest but after this tempur madness of soft am not sure. Again this is latex I can only imagine not pure and bed is floor model for 3 years ? Asking about that too price us 1600 on that.
Ok I must decide to get out of memory foam or not and o am leaning to get out as it is just too hard to move .
As I said love hate with memory foam but this latex is comiserable in pressure point relief.
I donāt object to poly at all. Beds 3 and 4 use a different poly much less expensive than bed 1and bed 2?
It is indeed softer but still ok for a support later.
Are you familiar with dorimer ? The man was very transparent and fair price.
If I have one made he can do it in3 days . He says all beds smell a bit and it is not like tempur.
If the poly is good I only am concerned with the comfort layer.
I am also reluctant to buy s floor model 3 yrs old but this bed holds up -makes one wonder?
My neck is holding me up in tempur I think . And I have the surgery next week.
Then there is essentia who will make an8 inch bed Ina week or so BUT THEY say it is fine at any weight ? Not sure about that one and 8 in too small for my poor knee. This is a big question mark here ?
So as. I said before my best bed would be 3 in soft talaly with 6 in latex core? What is the difference between 3 in talaly top and 7 inch poly core? Now I am confused on poly does it support like latex core? Cause I could not tell the difference . The tempur is poly core and 5 in memory foam . Terrible bed soft worn out bad so I am really leaning to latex top. I asked why 1 in of memory foam inside bed number 1abd they said it was for softness so the foam must be very hard underneath?
He said if he made me a bed they would use a softer cheaper poly than in bed 1 -I have to ask density donāt i? Lastly not sure about a 3 yr old floor model when new it is 2000 and a different foam
The floor model is called s dream weaver. So have you heard of this company and what do you think? This is so hard cause I just want anything but the bed I have right now. But can wait a week to get right one made. You are so right it is s matter of finding the alance between support and comfort layers not an easy task .
But you must be aware of the company right?
Can you let me know ?
TY for your prompt answer appreciate that . Sorry about the typo.
Hi kayla,
Whew ā¦ thatās a little more reasonable.
It would be lower density than I would be comfortable with at your weight. You can see the guidelines I would suggest in post #4 here and there is also more detailed information in post #3 here that would be helpful for those that are in higher weight ranges.
Iām not personally familiar with them or their mattresses outside of what is on their website but they are on the Calgary list as one of the ābetter options or possibilitiesā. Of course outside of PPP ā¦ any mattress is only as good as itās construction and the quality of the materials inside it regardless of which manufacturer makes it.
Phoenix
My apologies -this is what sleep deprivation does-of course it is energia foam and dorimer on the list you sent me.
Well Iām any future beds they are not using inergia so he said if I special order he doesnāt know what the foam will be like.
I am not sure but would like energia rather than an unknown foam.
I am hoping I can order a bed with that foam and 3 inches latex on top which would be great .
My understanding is that they will not be using that foam and cannot guarantee new foam .
So what to do? Take a risk order new one ? Or floor model which is soft but contains inergia?
How can I custom order when I donāt know the density of the foam?
He said it would be softer energia just too expensive.
So custom is s risk .
Going organic is way too expensive , I donāt mind foam at all. But he clearly stated I would not know what I would be getting .
Going to try to ask for inergia if custom made also any other bed than floor model will have new foam in it so its all risky now .
And where are they getting their latex?
So many questions so little time.
Also still in the running are āOMI bed 3600 but seller will definately not take it out if the box??? Why o wonder?
Essentia but losing interest and very suspicious now?
I have a Berkeley topper on hold and retail guy says must buy now as he has no room in his store that would be TMASC I have a 200 dollar deposit and he offered to deliver the 1000 dollar topper for 85 $ but I donāt have room in my home to store this topper . Strange no room in a store or you lose your hold on something I will need if I order sleeptec. That is what I was told by owner -need topper and sleeptec bed. But because HE doesnāt have room in the store they cannot hold it for me. Confusing as what was it doing in the store in the first place? I would like an opinion on that too please?
That person is aware I have no room .
So needs me to pick it up tomorrow which o cannot do as I have no means to do it . Have to wonder what is different about this topper than the talaly dorimer uses?
As for Berkeley bed -how can I buy a bed I cannot try first and TMASC does not have thst model to try.
So these are my options .
to sum up 2 floor models and one essentia -sleeptec 10 weeks out and no soft topper.
One floor model not even possible to try.
At least I got to try dorimers floor model.
This really should be easier than this.
The ability to shop around is hampered by my pain
Signed stuck in a tempur and hurting . Lol
Hi kayla,
All of your questions that I can see have been answered in my previous replies about how to choose a mattress and how to minimize the risks involved in any mattress choice.
Without specific answers to the questions that Iāve asked in my previous replies there is very little else I can suggest to you.
You are following a very different and more ārandomā process for choosing a mattress than I would normally suggest but if it works for you and you are happy with it then thatās all that really matters.
Iām looking forward to finding out what you end up deciding.
Phoenix