Pillows?

I am a stomach sleeper, and I prefer feather/down pillows.

I did not like the latex ones at all, they were all too thick and unresponsive. Shredded latex pillows are much better, but still IMO inferior in comfort to down pillows.

I can make my feather/down pillow almost disappear if I want, and it is very soft.
I bought one at Ikea for $12 and it is a combination of feathers and down. What I don’t like about it is that the pillow is loud (!). Its cover is made of material that makes sound, I guess to prevent feathers to stick out.

Now I understand why down pillows are better than feather+down, so I will try to find one.

Feather only pillows ($10-$15)
85% Feather+ 15% down ($12)
Inner core:feather, outer core down ($25-$60)
Down only pillows ($40-$160)

What is surprising that there are more affordable pillows at Ross/Marshalls stores than in the entire Internet.

I agree that preferable pillow type is a very personal choice, so no single pillow type could be recommended to everyone.
Stomach sleepers should definitely try natural down pillows.

Hi ZhivagosGirl,

I you ever have a chance, I’d love to have a picture of your 50 year old pillow … just to point to it from time to time :slight_smile:

I’m sure you probably are thinking the same thing but I think the Dream solutions would be the firmest of the bunch (will allow for less sinking in to the pillow).

Phoenix

Was over by our Sears today and they actually have the Dream Solutions in stock so I was able to try it out. To just squeeze it and hold it and put my head on it I did not like it at all. However - Sears does have a mattress dept (full of the 3 S’s) about 5 feet from where I was standing - so I just took the pillow over to the closest bed and tried it out. I figured the latex we have coming couldn’t be any harder than the inner spring ones they were selling. Once I put it down on the bed and laid on it it lost the majority of the rubbery bounce and squishiness I didn’t like of how it felt just hold it standing up. It had a nice amount of give without “reverberation” (LOL - for lack of a better term) but also felt supportive. I didn’t pull the trigger and buy them because a) I was hoping to see if anyone had any feedback on that malouf “bumply” one and b) They had 3 there and I’d be willing to bet they’ve been there a while. Not that they aren’t in plastic - but they’re sorta just haphazardly stacked on the floor. I’d be inclined to actually buy them online if I want to pull the trigger in the hopes that they’ve been stored in a “nice, clean” warehouse. :wink:

For the love of pete as a side note - I literally had to force myself to leave after I heard the sales lady telling a customer about how hot latex was. :ohmy: :pinch: Honestly I don’t even know that they had anything latex there but I was “this close” to slipping the couple a note with the web info for Jordan Brothers.

Anyhoo - to end on a good note, Jordan Brothers called today and they can deliver our set a day early! Huzzah! :cheer:

PS - does a latex pillow need the same type of protector as a latex mattress?

Hi ZhivagosGirl,

Thanks for the “pillow report”. Hopefully it will help many others that are looking at the same pillow :slight_smile:

I know the feeling of hearing misinformation being given to a customer in a store. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard similar things and have had to bite my tongue! It’s amazing to me how much misinformation is being passed off as accurate by misinformed and poorly trained salespeople. I could also tell you about many times when I was the one being told the misinformation and decided to “correct” what I was being told in my various rounds or phone calls to different outlets. The response has has ranged from gratitude and “thanks” from those who want to know more to outright hostility that someone would “dare” to question what they were saying.

I just make my notes in my database so I don’t forget who they are :slight_smile:

Phoenix

Hello all,

Because this is the"main pillow thread" and there are some other threads that have some good pillow information or feedback … I thought I’d add a post with links to some of the other threads with the thread titles that talk about pillows. they are …

Review of the seven comforts latex pillow

Quick update a double stack pillow dilemma

Talatech pillow

Help in selecting the best pillows

Some thoughts about buckwheat pillows in post 11 and 13

Some good information about down pillows post #5 to post #12

This way we can keep adding to the main “pillow thread” collection :slight_smile:

Phoenix

Ended up getting 2 of the Dream Solutions Latex pillows (abt $44.99) - and turning around the next day taking them back. Hubby hated his, I wasn’t crazy about it either. Just not firm enough. Ended up going with gusseted extra firm polyfill - at least for now. LOL - on sale $16 (king) that I ended up getting for $6 each with add’l discounts.

Tried a body pillow - that also got returned. It was a Laura Ashley ($19.99) from Bed Bath and Beyond - it was SO firm and bulky it was literally like having a 5 yr old in the bed with us. Incidentally - BB and B also had latex pillows in stock for $49.99 (for a king). Ended up with a “cheapy” from Target that’s been fine.

This whole process has been exhausting.

Hi ZhivagosGirl,

As you know … there are some “needs” with pillows (thicker for side sleeping, medium or shaped for back sleeping, thin for stomach sleeping, and scrunchy or variable for combination sleeping to help with upper body alignment) but beyond these and a few others … they are a very personal item with a huge variety of different feels and “interaction” with different people. Even pillows that are “rated” highly on reviews means little if someone doesn’t like the “feel” of certain materials.

My personal thoughts are that pillows are too personal an item for anyone to recommend one for someone else although it can certainly be helpful to read some feedback about how different pillows feel (as well as this type of subjective information can be described) or to know the different qualities of different types (slow/fast recovery, motion assisting/restricting, scrunchiness, sleeping temperature etc).

I think that pillows are one of the most important parts of a sleeping system because our head and face can be so sensitive to different types but they are also one of the most difficult components for many people to get “right” … and many people will change pillows much more than they change mattresses always looking for the “perfect pillow” for them.

It seems though that your “cheapy” is working well which is good news!

I have to say that I am also quite comfortable with my zoned, soft and high profile latex pillow although I know that latex in a pillow isn’t for everyone. I still haven’t been able to convince my DH to switch with me though for her biogreen trillow memory foam pillow which has become “hers” and nobody can take it away from her … even for a few nights :slight_smile:

Phoenix

I completely agree on the “such a personal thing” comment. I swear my husband was like a 2 yr old with his blankie about 1 of them. He would NOT get rid of it and I did not want to sully the new pristine beautiful bed and other pillows I bought. I took the the cover off, about disolved it in bleach got a new deluxe cover - LOL in the hopes of trapping anything IN. I may have to go to a hypnotist to remember where I got it from because at some point it’s GOT to GO!

Baby steps right? :wink:

Has anyone tried those pillows they advertise on T.V? Best pillows? I have also seen them at some county fairs. My wife loves pillows (we have way too many) and she was looking at those, but it is hard for me to buy their claims.

Correction: Its My pillow. they also sell them at a lot of state fairs. Their website is: http://www.mypillow.com/about-mypillow.html

anybody buy one of these or have any comments?

I don’t have any experience with the pillows that you are asking about. I did look at the website and found some issues that would bother me. I do have some neck issues so pillows are very important to me.

  1. I couldn’t find anywhere the filling material that is in the pillow
  2. Most of the information on the main ‘about’ page is just marketing ‘stories’
  3. You can see a lot of reviews on Amazon do not agree with the claims about this pillow:
    Amazon.com

It seems that the claims made about this pillow are… exaggerated at best. The pillow may work for some, but according to the reviews for it on Amazon about half give it only a 1 star rating. If you are just looking for ratings on this pillow, the Amazon review page would help you.

I hope that you find something that works for you and if you do purchase this pillow, please review it here. :smiley:

Oh, I wanted to add that from the small sampling of Amazon reviews I read, it seems this pillow is just a shredded foam pillow. One reviewer “AKoster” states: “The pillow filling is comprised of small irregular bits of foam–the surface of the pillow is not smooth-looking, but I don’t find it to be an issue at all”…“The bits do allow for flattening or fluffing the pillow to your liking, and it holds that shape pretty well.”

You can get quality “Made in USA” shredded foam pillows off Amazon for much less then the offering from “My Pillow”.

Here’s some links to some shredded latex pillows on Amazon, but you can find many other types of shredded foam pillows there as well.

https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Dreams-Shredded-Talalay-Pillow/dp/B007Y72RZ8/ref=sr_1_4?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1344182984&sr=1-4&keywords=shredded+latex+pillow

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003DKL1MK/ref=oh_o05_s01_i00_details

https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Shredded-pillow-pillows-natural/dp/B001AZVQ20/ref=sr_1_9?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1344182984&sr=1-9&keywords=shredded+latex+pillow

https://www.amazon.com/Malouf-Natural-Shredded-Talalay-Pillow/dp/B005CK100C/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1344183464&sr=8-3&keywords=latex+pillow

If you are struggling with neck issues like me, you might want to look into pillows that provide cervical spine support (if you sleep on your side or back). My doctor and physical therapist both recommended a contour pillow, but I had a hard time trying to find one that was the right height with the perfect amount of firmness/softness.

Hi Rskman,

As Coventry mentioned … these pillows are basically just shredded polyurethane foam. I read the patent application (and the video describes it more generally as well) and they use 3 different average sizes of small, medium, and large foam chunks of certain average sizes and in a certain proportion mixed together and the idea is that each size of shredded foam fills in the gaps produced by the larger sizes. The patent application describes the average sizes of chunks used, their proportion, and even the type of polyfoam used (1.8 - 1.9 lb density and 27 - 35 ILD). The idea is that it can be fluffed during sleep as the sleep position changes and then conforms to the body shape because the larger chunks will stay put and hold the shape while the smaller chunks fill in the gaps. The cover also uses what they call “hypoallergenic paint” which is some type of latex paint which is used to mask the feel of any sharp edges of the foam chunks. They use open celled foam which is reticulated foam which has very open cells so it can be washed and dried (like polyfoam sponges).

As Coventry mentioned … the claims are exaggerated and based on how foam chunks of different types and sizes settle and are not particularly unique to this pillow. They can be washed because reticulated foam (like sponges) will dry faster than other types of foam (like outdoor foam or dri-fast foam). At the prices they are charging … you are basically buying a story rather than some amazing material or “magic ingredient” and I think the reviews that Coventry mentioned suggest the same.

@Coventry … did you ever happen to find the knitted wool covers you were looking for?

Phoenix

Funny you should mention that Pheonix, since I’m knitting them right now. Well, not while I type… that would be pretty amazing though. :slight_smile:

I’m playing around with the weight of yarn and gauge. Wool is a must for it’s temperature regulating properties with a plain stockinette stitch for stretchability and lack of possible facial imprints. Once I’ve gotten a good swatch knitted up I’ll start on the pillowcase and post pictures, observations and any befuddlement’s I have here.

Once I made up my mind about knitting the cases myself, I gave up looking for them. I really like knitting and it’s satisfying for me to futz around with things like this. I’m hoping to get them done in a week or two depending on my distraction levels and other projects that elbow in too. :slight_smile:

Thank you Coventry & Phoenix for the information! I love this blog, a lot of useful information is shared here.

Great thread on pillows.

I have been using a buckwheat hull pillow for over 20 years and love it. I have some cervical spine issues that I go to the chiropractor for. I like that I can shape the pillow to any size I need for neck/head support no matter what position I am in. I know this type of pillow is not for everyone. I bought my wife one and she was not crazy about it.

I had tried some of the foam neck support/chiropractic pillows on the market before I purchased the buckwheat one, and was very unhappy with them, they also were not cheap. They were either very uncomfortable or flattened out after a few months of use.
My wife also tried a wool-filled pillow at one point, but that flattened out after about a year.

I had a good laugh when I read about ZhivagosGirl’s 50 year old pillows. We also have 2 feather/down pillows that must be at least 50 years old that I cannot let go of. I think I used them as a child and inherited them from my parents. They are as flat as a pancake, but I don’t actually use mine as a pillow, but more as a neck/ chest warmer when I am sleeping on my back, and as a side/chest support when sleeping on my side, stomach or somewhere in between. I can’t even imagine what they look like inside. :sick:

The reason I searched for the pillow thread, is because my wife is having some neck issues since we got our new latex mattress. Up until now, she has been using a feather pillow for the past few years and has been very happy with it. Now she is searching for a new type of pillow.

A promise I made to myself years ago…IF I find a “perfect” pillow I will buy the store out. I had that pillow a few years ago and kept saying - “I’m going next weekend to buy the rest of them off the shelf”. I never did, and subsequently never found the pillow again since it was discontinued. It was a foam pillow at WalMart for $30-40. The next one I find that hit’s the sweet spot will be hoarded!

Hi Overcomer,

I completely understand the sentiment :slight_smile:

Phoenix

I just wanted to pass along additional thanks on this pillow reference. While doing my mattress shopping at Original Mattress Factory, I noticed that the most comfortable pillow they had was the higher loft latex pillow from Rejuvinite. While the OMF pricing on that pillow was quite good, I ended up getting the high loft zoned pillow (but the firm, not plush model) from Malouf via Amazon. I’ve now slept on it three nights and like it quite a bit. There is a small odor, but it is decreasing every night. While it -is- a little bouncy, I find that when laying my head on the pillow, which is on the mattress, it turns into a nice smooth support platform – it does not feel too bouncy at that point.

John