I think I’m about to pull the trigger on a latex bed, but just wanted to run my thinking by here real quick.
First of all I’m 6’ and weight about 240lbs, my wife is 5’ 4" and weights about 160lbs (and just recently found out she’s pregnant if that plays any additional role). We’re both 30, without any significant back problems that I know of, and we both sleep in all positions. If I’m on my side sometimes I roll over slightly on my stomach which seems to put me at both ends of the spectrum. I’m comfortable on my back too with good support and think I’d like to consciously try to be more of a real side and/or back sleeper. My wife agrees she sleeps all different ways. Initially said she was a side sleeper, but noticed recently being on her stomach (that won’t happen after awhile).
Currently we have a simmons beautyrest, so it’s got pocketed coils and we like the isolation. If we happen to be on another spring mattress we notice the movement and appreciate ours. We have a 2" memory foam topper and another 1" quilted/padded topper on top of that. We like the pillow top feel, but I know that firmness underneath is important for me at least. The primary motivation is to upgrade from a queen to a king, but I’m trying to further examine my sleeping habits, and realize lately we toss and turn and my arms fall asleep. I think that would suggest it’s not soft enough, but I almost feel like it’s too soft and not enough support lower. Price-wise our budget is about $2,000 because we’re also buying furniture, and that’s around the level of the iComfort we first saw at the furniture store. Which, btw, we liked the initial feel of, before I ended up here and reading more.
We live in the Dallas area and tried to do some testing locally. First of all we tried The Mattress Factory in Ft Worth, but we drove there last Saturday only to find out they were closed for a week vacation which wasn’t mentioned on their website. We were able to check out City Mattress near by, and then Sleep Craft in Lewisville where we had a good experience. He had 32 and 36 ILD solid core talalay mattresses and brought out a 24 ILD core for us to feel. They were all ok, but didn’t have any sort of soft topper. His theory was that if you have dissimilar materials the softer will wear out faster, it makes sense, but sort of threw me off from what I was hoping to try out. What we really liked there was his hybrid mattress, which was a firm innerspring with a plush removable 3.5" topper, which had 2" of 19 ILD talalay inside. He said that was his most popular seller, but I wasn’t really sure of the details about the spring, it wasn’t pocketed coils and he said it was the old sterns and foster design. We tried the topper on the other mattresses and felt like we sank in too much, however, now I think this is in a large part due to the soft quilting over the medium core, and less about the soft latex in the topper.
I found a place that had Pure Latex Bliss, but they only had the pamper and nutrition models. The pamper was definitely firm (Just 1" of 19 over 40 ILD I believe I read on here). Later I realized from their website it’s a good platform to add a soft topper to. The nutrition was ok and I could be happy with it. These were the first stretchy knit toppers we felt as opposed to the heavier wool quilts. My wife still thought it was too firm, but later said it was soft enough (unfortunately she’s less interested in trying out lots of different mattresses and lying on them for a long time in the stores). My take away was that latex just doesn’t provide the plushness we’re used to. I think there’ll be a bit of a transition period, I’m up for it if it works out better in the end, I just hope my wife can handle the ride along the way.
Now after lots more reading and comparisons Flobeds and SleepEZ are the top contenders without over exceeding our price range. I want to like Arizona Premium Mattress for the price, but I think I prefer the flexibility of the 3" cores. I also think I’ll want 3" for the soft top, due to side sleeping. Where flobeds really has me interested is their convoluted top, which sounds nice and plush. For the record their calculator says med/med for my wife, and ex firm/firm for me. I figured we’d do med/firm on my wifes side to give some flexibility. Price wise we’d just want to stick with the 2 layers + topper, but I’m not sure that’s enough. Unfortunately, I feel like I might need to go up to their vZone to have enough soft depth for my shoulders and hips, and I just don’t think we can spend $3300 right now. I also can’t get excited about the current natural latex sale, I wish there was a discount on the blended to help out with price. While I can see that it’s factored into the price, I think I like that their exchange policy is to buy your additional core for just $75. If I get to keep the old one I feel like I’ll have some more flexibility in the future as well.
So, I keep coming back to SleepEZ and their 10,000 model. I haven’t called and talked to them yet, but I’m thinking we’d have a common soft top. My wife’s side would be soft-medium-firm, and mine would be soft-firm-ext firm, all talalay. That would at least give us enough combinations to try out initially. Does that seem right for our stats? One of my concerns is that the 22-24 ILD soft top isn’t going to be soft enough, but then again it is pretty thick. I’m wondering if we can and/or should ask to customize this to a 19 or lower? I’ll admit I haven’t really thought much about Dunlop like in the deeper layers, am I missing anything, or can I just wait to exercise that variable if we need to exchange a firm layer? If this isn’t soft enough I wonder about the next steps of adding a topper or something, but I guess I’ll still be below the price of Flobeds.
I also wonder if the quilted top may add a more ‘normal’ plushness feel, or will it just firm it up more like I’ve been reading. Also, I know some people prefer to request the stretchy knit, but isn’t that a downgrade in price (and I wonder if you get any credit back)?
How is their mattress protector? On the other hand, is there any reason to go with the thin knit and then get the wool mattress pad from Flobeds?
My last big concern is the foundation. It seems like I’d be paying a premium $380 for a shippable foundation, and that I should be able to find something better/cheaper locally that doesn’t have to compromise to be shipped. I haven’t called mattress stores asking for just a foundation yet, but is that even worth my time? The other tempting option is the Ikea foundation, Sultan Aram (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/80188550/#/50188556), but I can’t tell how many slats it has or how it’ll compare. It’ll still cost $200. I’m assuming that our new sleigh bed will have slats and that we just put the foundation and then mattress on top of it. I know this latex stuff is pretty heavy, any reason to have it on it’s own feet? That brings up another hypothetical question, eventually if we get an adjustable base (this interest also limits how much I want to spend on a regular foundation) will this fit inside of a sleigh bed? Is the SleepEZ one any good? If you go adjustable base, should the topper be 2 separate pieces? This is the point where even though it’d be a stretch, I wonder if we should bite the bullet and get an adjustable base. I guess the downside is the return shipping if none of this works out and we go back to a spring mattress and maybe a plush later topper.
I’m kind of anxious to move forward so I can get back to other things (not reading about mattresses), and because our furniture is scheduled to be delivered next week. I like this whole idea of customizing, but the other thought in my mind is if i should wait and talk to The Mattress Factory locally. I doubt the do zippable covers, so I’d give up that and cost would probably be at least the same, so it doesn’t really seem any better at this point other than to try it out, but I’m also still a bit bitter that we drove all that way and found out they’re closed. I can’t even call to ask any questions.
Thanks for your help.