Hey all! Quick intro – I have read this forum for years and have a world of information through both expertise and personal experience. After 4 different mattresses in approximately 5 years and my current mattress sagging, I have finally moved to DIY.
I am 155lbs 5’8. I have considered all latex until I realized let me try hybrid since I have 8" coils which are in perfect shape currently. So I have ripped apart my mattress and threw away the pillow top and middle foam layer to expose the coils. I have a 3" gel foam topper that I’ve used in various configs on my last mattress so I figured let me lay just this topper over my coils.
Well after years of research and this past week alone, accidentally, I think I found my perfect combo- This alone has given me better sleep than I have ever had in a long time!
Now my question. The current setup 8" coil, 3" gel foam (no clue the specs) is seemingly perfect. Refreshed and no pain or numbness. My concern is that it just may be a tad too soft.
I would imagine I need a small transition layer between these two. I was considering a 1" medium Dunlop but I can find no info of such on the forums if this is worth it or will do anything?
My goal is to only slightly firm it up a bit and by firm I don’t even mean firm but perhaps just a tiny bit of support somewhere (unsure if it’s even actually needed since I have slept perfect for 3 days now)
Is the 1" Dunlop in the middle a good option for this? Is latex overkill and should I just throw foam in the middle? I wanted to move away from foam as it degrades quicker and the latex should be more durable in long term. But unsure if 1" will accomplish adding a touch of stiffness overall?
Any guidance will be appreciated! Thank you!
I would stick with what you got if it’s working for you. But if you want to add 1 inch of latex, you could go with Sleep on Latex who sells 1inch of dunlop and also has a good return policy. Can’t hurt.
If you wanted to go all foam, you could add 1 inch of high density or high resilience foam. I would suggest foamonline for that.
Since you’re concerned about sinkage, maybe try a reasonably firm transition layer, around 28+ ILD?
By the way, are you a back or side sleeper?
That’s what I was thinking regarding sleep on latex 1" and their return policy. There’s no down side to it. Just curious if it would be a waste of time and do nothing to the feel of anything especially sinces it’s between the coil and foam top.
Sorry for not including. I’m a side and stomach sleeper. Little bit of both at the same time occasionally ie. Partial stomach.
As mentioned I have no pain or aches and refreshed which is a new feeling to me, but the 1" transition layer I figured may add some durability to it.
I just haven’t been able to find any info regarding a 1" layer anywhere.
Side note. I did purchase a 3" talalay from mattresstopper (Brooklyn bedding) to see if latex could be any better, but if this is perfect it probably won’t be better. It was on sale though with 20% off so figured why not.
The 1" foam would be much cheaper I’m sure, but I was thinking more latex for the durability and longevity of it as well as it would be firmed than the foam underneath? Maybe I’ll just order one of each lol
I can understand your thought process, but actually adding any additional foam (memory foam or latex) under your existing topper would only result in more sinkage and a softer overall feel. That’s since an additional layer would be compressible even if firmer than the current topper so the combination would end up being somewhat softer with more sinkage. I learned this when I tried adding a 3" XF 44ILD support layer to the base layers in my setup thinking it would add support. I was surprised to find that the result was softer with noticeably more sinkage which was the opposite of what I was trying to achieve. I checked with Sleep EZ and they confirmed what I experienced.
Interesting. So how do I go about making it slightly more supportive? Or I just need to swap the whole top layer entirely?
As mentioned I am patiently waiting a 3" talalay topper as I want to see what that results in as my guess is that will be more firmer/supportive than the 3" memory foam but unsure if that will give me close to the same results I have now.
Of course I can just keep my current setup as it seems to be working. About how long after mattress changes should one be testing and seeing if the changes are good? It’s been 4 or 5 nights for me with this setup and it’s great. Does the body need more time than this to show any real potential issues?
To make a current setup more supportive you would preferably switch to firmer support layers without increasing material height, or you can make the surface more supportive by swapping the comfort layers for a firmer option. The base layers are what provides primary support. Most claim that break in can take a month or more, but it depends upon the materials. Latex for example changes less with break in than most other types of foam including memory foam. Since you state how great your current setup is working it might be best to leave well enough alone, you may find that any changes will only make things worse but the only way to know for sure is to experiment if you’re so inclined. Make sure you remember your current setup so you can return to it.
Hello!
Well I only have the base layer and comfort layer there technically is no support layer.
But today I hit an issue. Def woke up with some minor lower back pain! So the top is def too soft I’m guessing?
I have a 3" talalay topper finally shipping to me. Will 20ild talalay be a bit firmer than 3 inch soft memory foam? Infact I found what memory foam I have it’s a novafoam innocor comfort gel memory foam…
I figured latex was less soft than foam so I went for soft since I like soft layer, but im thinking perhaps I need medium but I’ll find out soon enough
Any thought?
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