Review of the Ultimate Dreams mattress

Hi JayD2014,

As far as I know Amazon only stocks and fulfills certain sizes or firmness options most likely based on popularity. For example if you choose a full size in Plush/Medium or Ultra Plush/Soft it would be fulfilled by Amazon.

Phoenix

Well I was about to make a BIG MISTAKE and spend about the same amount (600) on a mediocre spring mattress at a local mattress store. My friend advised me on the benefits of memory foam and let me try out his Ultimate Dreams Mattress. It felt amazing, and I just purchased on Amazon and I canā€™t wait to sleep like a baby B)

Hi MemFoamPat,

Congratulations on your new mattress :slight_smile:

You certainly made a good quality/value choice and I hope you have the chance to share your feedback when youā€™ve received it.

Which mattress did you purchase?

Phoenix

After spending a lot of time researching, I finally decided to purchase the Ultimate Dreams king sized mattress. I definitely like my mattresses on the plush side of the firmness scale, so I went with an 8. Iā€™m nervous about the decision, as there are a lot of mixed reviews on the firmness, but I think it ultimately comes down to personal preference so there was no real way to find out.

Looking forward to testing out my new mattress. If anyone has any suggestions on any particular bed frames that go with this mattress, let me know! :slight_smile:

I just ordered this mattress from Amazon. I canā€™t wait to sleep on it! My first time sleeping on a memory foam mattress was like heaven. I have been researching mattresses and decided on this one after reading all the reviews here and on Amazon.

Hi mimilam and MsMair14,

As you know I think you both made a good quality/value choice ā€¦ and congratulations on your new mattresses :slight_smile:

I hope you both have the chance to share your feedback when youā€™ve received them.

@mimilam,

Dreamfoam has a platform bedframe and also sells a foundation that would be suitable for your mattress. There is also more information about the types of support systems or foundations that are suitable for different types of mattresses and some good sources for each of them as well in the foundation post here.

Phoenix

The last few posts have been calling the Ultimate Dreams latex mattress a ā€œmemory foam.ā€ Is this accurate?? I didnā€™t think it had any memory foam in it.

Hi jayD2014,

The original review in this topic and most of the comments in the topic have been about the Ultimate Dreams latex hybrid mattress
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but Dreamfoam makes a wide range of mattresses including memory foam and some of these also include ā€œUltimate Dreamsā€ as part of the name of the mattress (see here and here for two examples) so some of the members here may have posted in this thread without realizing that the ā€œUltimate Dreamsā€ mattress that is the topic of most of the discussion here was the Ultimate Dreams latex not the Ultimate Dreams memory foam mattresses or they may also have confused latex with memory foam.

I hope that clarifies any confusion.

Phoenix

Iā€™m sure this has been pointed out, but how much of a negative is the change in the base from 2.35lbs of high density base foam to the now 1.5lbs foam. Based on the mattress guide about cores on the underground site, a 1.5lbs foam core is not acceptable. So has this change effected opinions about this mattress? Has it changed from a daily use Master bedroom to a occasional use spare room in terms of durability?

I thought it was still 2.35lb core- where does it specify 1.5 now? Just ordered one via Amazon, excited for it to come!

The weight of the core is listed on the DreamFoam site

https://dreamfoambedding.com/index.php?route=common/home

But On page 1 post 1 of this thread (from a few years ago) it is noted as 2.35. You can read the full debate including the Phoenix response here and at post #14
https://forum.mattressunderground.com/t/brooklyn-bedding-vs-dreamfoam-beddinglimitstart=0#19558

Here Phoenix argues that the change to 1.5lbs foam should not be significant ā€¦ But this seems to contradict the educational section of this site which seems to indicate that 1.5lbs foam is not HD and is not suitable for mattress construction.

What am i misunderstanding here?

Hi MrM1 and 203sbvert,

Iā€™m not sure where you read that this wasnā€™t acceptable but it would certainly be a suitable choice for a mattress in this budget range or even higher (see the guidelines here). There is also more about polyfoam support cores in this article. You may have been reading the article about comfort layers which suggests avoiding 1.5 lb polyfoam comfort layers in a one sided construction because the weakest link of a mattress is generally in the upper layers.

While this is somewhat of an old subject because the change was made a long time ago ā€¦ it has been the subject of many questions (probably because of an Amazon review that talks about it shows up on top of the ā€œnegativeā€ list) and you can see my thoughts about it (and the review) in post #2 here and the posts it links to (including the post that MrM1 linked).

For most people that arenā€™t in a heavier weight range 1.5 lb polyfoam would be fine and this would be a very good quality/value and durable choice.

Phoenix

[quote=ā€œPhoenixā€ post=41101]

Iā€™m not sure where you read that this wasnā€™t acceptable but it would certainly be a suitable choice for a mattress in this budget range or even higher (see the guidelines here). [/quote]

I was taking it from the second link you posted ā€¦

ā€œRegular conventional polyfoam: This is the lowest grade of polyfoam and weighs less than 1.5 lbs per cubic foot. It is the least expensive and is not really suitable for use in a mattress at all ā€¦ either as a soft comfort layer (unless it is in the range of around an inch or so or less in a quilting layer) or as a support material ā€¦ unless the mattress is for occasional use or is meant to last a very short timeā€

But i missed the phrase ā€œless thanā€. So i am guessing 1.5lbs is right on the edge of acceptable. :blush:

Hi MrM1,

This is referring to polyfoam that is LESS than 1.5 lbs which means to avoid foam densities in the 1.2 or 1.3 lb range (or even in the 1.4 lb range which would be ā€œon the edgeā€).

You can see my comments about 1.5 lb polyfoam support layers in the next paragraph in the same article.

Phoenix

Ok thanks. This bed is in my short list and when i picked up that the density had changed after having read so much of the good about theses beds, , it just made me wonder if that was going to be a durability factor.

I am shopping for a new master bed to replace a 5 year old S-brand that has probably been dead for the past 3 year. I have several good options within a few hours of me including a local warehouse that sells Therapedic, Symbol and Golden Mattress. Fox Mattress is not to far over in Holly Hill and also The Original Mattress Factory. So i have some options, shopping and comparing to do.

Right now I am kind gun shy of spring beds (maybe i should not be), But after having really bad experiences with 2 S-brand spring beds in 8 years i was leaning toward latex or synthetic latex and this beed seemed about the only one that stayed in the mid budget range.

Hi MrM1,

You certainly have some good options available to you and Iā€™m looking forward to finding out what you end up deciding ā€¦ and of course any other comments or questions you may have along the way.

Phoenix

Just placed an order on eurotop latex mattress from dream foam and canā€™t wait to give it a try!

Hi jofoliage,

Congratulations on your new mattress :slight_smile:

As you know you made a high quality/value choice and I hope you have the chance to share your feedback once you receive it.

Phoenix

I have skinned thru this thread and am wondering if there are any reports of dips, body impression, sagging or concaving 2 or more years out.

Hi MrM1,

Yes, you will find some percentage of feedback about soft spots or sagging (virtual or visible impressions) with every mattress ā€¦ especially in this budget range. In the case of the Ultimate Dreams latex (which I assume is the mattress you mean) the percentage will be very low compared to mattresses you will usually find in this budget range because talalay latex is such a durable material (and not normally found in mattresses in this price range) and holds up better in a comfort layer than any other foam material. Most of these reports will either be because of an initial choice that was too soft in the first place, higher body weights that would do better with a firmer mattress or a higher density base layer, or in a very small percentage of cases actual defects in the foam that was supplied by the foam manufacturer (which will usually show up early in the life of the mattress). There is more about all the factors that can affect the durability and useful life of a mattress relative to different people and body types in post #2 here and the posts it links to.

Overall ā€¦ for those where durability is an issue ā€¦ latex is the most durable of all the foam materials used in comfort layers regardless of the name of the mattress or the manufacturer that uses it in their mattress.

Phoenix