Hi All,
I’m looking to buy a mattress that is firm and hotel like and did some research about mattresses and landing on a Dreamcloud hybrid for the value vs. features. What we discovered is that the mattress is not firm, has edges that sag, sleeps hot, and we both concave into one another. We are 140 lbs and 230 lbs. Wondering what are some good recommendations for what we are after: Hotel-type, firm, sleeps cool, and doesn’t have saggy edges or is slynky.
Let me know, thanks!
Hi Andrewemil,
Just about every Trusted Member (vendor who is on the Mattress UnderGround) can address this issue.
My guess is that the research regarding DreamCloud was mostly internet affiliate reviews. Be that as it may, you should peruse our tutorials on mattress foams, fibers, spring gauges, and mattress construction. You would likely have passed on the DC early in the search. Even Reddit’s r/mattressmod and r/mattress have sections on mattress manufacturers to avoid. It is an interesting read.
The Mattress UnderGround prioritizes the quality of all mattress materials, layer by layer within the mattress. One poor, low-quality layer can undermine an entire mattress.
It is likely that you may be happier with a split internal comfort layer mattress.
A couple of quick examples you can look at for reference:
All of our latex manufacturers, if you prefer latex, have offerings where they can split the comfort layer to accommodate the differences in body profiles and preferences of sleeping couples.
I would watch this video on edge support. Edge support is sometimes misunderstood, particularly when it comes to an all-foam mattress or a pocketed spring mattress.
Every single Trusted Member at TMU has been vetted for their transparency and the quality of individual components to be listed here on the Mattress UnderGround.
All know and understand what the priorities are when building a mattress and are happy to collaborate with mattress seekers to guide them to the best possible choice.
Please feel free to peruse the tutorials and ask specific targeted questions. If there is a Trusted Member you would like to ask a specific question, just use the @ symbol before their name, like @Maverick, and they will get an alert to respond.
We are happy to have you here and hopefully guide you to the best night’s sleep.
All the best,
Maverick
THANK YOU! I will check out these resources you have linked, much appreciated!
Great quality, great customer service. You are in good hands.
Hi @Maverick
I have looked at both the recommendations and the MemoryMax looks the most appealing to us. The DUO line also looks good for its firmness, but it’s hard to tell without laying on them.
We have been looking around more in stores and tried several more and really liked the Temper-pedic Pro Adapt 12” Firm mattress.
The sales person showed us three in the store, two Temper-pedics and a beauty rest black and this one felt the most comfortable.
We thought a hybrid was the best choice for durably and comfortable until trying the Temper-pedic. It had a cooling layer that seemed really efficient and very little partner disturbance. We also really liked the edge support.
However, we are getting fatigued! Is it worth pulling the trigger on this mattress giving that it has a ten year warranty? They mentioned that this warranty protects against form sag that we have been wanting to avoid.
Or are there alternatives that folks here think we should look at?
Let me know what you recommend.
Thanks!
Hi Andrew,
I’m glad to hear you’ve found some mattresses that catch your interest. As you might know from the tutorials on the Mattress Underground, a key focus when searching for a mattress is the quality of materials used.
One principle I like to emphasize regardless of all that can be said.
“The best mattress is only the best if it works and is comfortable for you.”
While opinions on mattresses abound, those shared here at the Mattress Underground are grounded in a focus on material quality. After that, we prioritize factors like personal comfort, posture and alignment, pressure relief, and then consider budget and independent reviews.
While independent personal reviews often come from individuals who have had either exceptionally positive or negative experiences, there’s valuable insight to be gained from both perspectives. Paying attention to the key points mentioned by reviewers on both sides can help you get a more balanced view and make a more informed decision.
As you narrow down your options, it’s important to carefully investigate how different companies and retailers handle their warranties. Sometimes, enforcing these warranties can be more challenging than expected, and customer satisfaction can vary significantly. This isn’t meant to dissuade you from any particular mattress or brand, but rather to encourage you to be thorough in understanding how each warranty is implemented and any potential issues that might arise.
Taking the time to review independent feedback and any common concerns others have experienced can also provide valuable insights.
The quality and composition of mattress materials and construction can evolve over time. New technologies may lead to improvements, but occasionally, claims about these advancements can be overstated. It’s important to stay informed about the latest developments and to critically evaluate whether new technologies genuinely enhance mattress performance or are simply marketed as superior.
One example of this is Tempurpedic’s claim that their mattress is “10 degrees cooler,” which is accompanied by an asterisk. The fine print reads:
++ LuxeBreeze® feels up to 10 degrees cooler based on the average heat index increase of TEMPUR-LuxeBreeze® compared to TEMPUR-ProAdapt® models measured over an 8-hour period. ProBreeze® feels up to 5 degrees cooler based on the average heat index increase of TEMPUR-ProBreeze® compared to TEMPUR-ProAdapt® models measured over an 8-hour period.
As you can see, the 10-degree cooler claim is only in comparison to another Tempurpedic mattress, not relative to your current mattress or how cool you might feel overall. The commercial might suggest a significant improvement over your existing setup, but the actual comparison is limited. While such marketing tactics are common and don’t necessarily indicate that the mattress itself is subpar, they can be misleading and leave a negative impression.
Since you’re exploring alternatives, one option to consider is Tempflow. Tempflow has been around for a considerable time and offers alternatives to Tempurpedic. They focus on enhancing airflow and temperature dissipation through creative design, while using high-quality, dense foam similar to what Tempurpedic originally became known for.
Tempurpedic has shifted its formulations over the years to cut costs and boost profits, which includes claims of reduced heat retention.
While denser materials generally offer greater durability, they can also restrict airflow, leading to increased heat retention in a mattress. To counteract this, alternative methods for enhancing air circulation and reducing heat buildup must be used. Effective strategies might include incorporating specialized ventilation channels or advanced cooling technologies to improve airflow and manage temperature within the mattress.
However, as demonstrated by the previous example, it’s important to scrutinize these claims carefully. Tempflow, on the other hand, has maintained its commitment to innovative cooling technologies and quality materials, providing a potentially effective alternative to Tempurpedic’s evolving product lineup.
I do agree that for many folks testing a mattress first is one way to determine if a particular mattress may be suitable for a sleepers needs. Lying on a mattress will allow one to observe their partner, or mattress professional see your posture and alignment, the first step for buying a mattress. It also allows you to eliminate mattresses that are too soft, test edge support, measure thickness the general feel of a material or foam. For example, the feel of memory foam vs latex vs natural fibers, tufting and other methods of build and construction.
On the other hand, if you careful scrutinize a companies trial period and their 4 R’s (Refund, Return, Restocking Fee and Reputation/Reviews) this will offer an indication whether you can purchase and test the mattress on specs (as I did) and test the mattress in your home and familiar environment that you are most comfortable, with no pressure to make a snap decision in a showroom. I employed this method for my own mattress as well as a recent purchase for my MiLaw who I purchased a DLX Premier Hybrid based solely on specs and likelihood of success. In both cases both have worked out amazingly.
In your search you also have to consider the complete package. You are not just purchasing a mattress. You are purchasing a sleep system. Your pillow is much more important and should not be taken lightly as it can be the “make or break” of sleeping comfort. Your sheet set can also be an integral part of your mattress comfort. Something I recently experienced. While at a recent trade show, I noticed DreamFit, a company that makes a variety of bedding products, but has sheets with unique elastic banded corners for maintaining sheets that will stay on the mattress and not slip off. At first glance, I thought, no big deal. Until I ordered a set. Aside from a variety of materials, Egyptian Cotton, Pima, Long Staple among the choices, the quality, resistance to pilling and the claim of not coming off your mattress, even if for an adjustable bed, seemed worth giving it a shot.
I have to say, after using sheets from Matouk, Sferra, and the budget-friendly California Design Den (which are great, by the way), these DreamFit sheets are fantastic. They stay securely on the mattress, fit snugly, and even keep my 3" wool topper firmly in place. This not only makes my mattress feel firmer but also enhances edge support (which was already excellent). My wife and I both noticed how comfortable we were the first morning we woke up.
Regarding the foundation, it’s crucial to choose one that properly supports your mattress, as a poor or inadequate foundation can undermine even the best mattress. Make sure to select a foundation that’s compatible with your mattress and use a mattress protector, as these elements can impact or void some manufacturers’ warranties.
Hopefully this long response helps and informative to guide you. As always you can use the @prefix on front of any Trusted Members name if you need more information regarding their mattresses.
All the best,
Maverick
Hi @andrewemil,
Maverick has given you a ton of info - so I won’t dive deep since he has already done that for you!
Our equivalent to the Tempur you like would be our Duo Memory. The difference being that it is a hybrid vs an all foam. Our option may be slightly firmer, but the Duo also gives you 2 different firmness options with its flippable support (+ a comfort exchange if needed).
Happy to answer any specific questions you have, but I wanted to throw that in there!
