Hello All - First a quick thank you to everyone on the forum for the wealth of knowledge here! After lots of research for past mattresses, I’m finally here with a question for the community.
Current Mattress: Several years back, we purchased a Luma Sleep Hybrid Slumber System queen mattress that we’ve been very happy with. The construction was a foam layer, coils, and a 3” talalay latex topper. We initially ordered the medium firmness, but after a month felt that was too soft and ended up swapping into the firm, which we’ve really liked over the years. For background, I’m 5’9” 215 lbs side sleeper and my wife is 5’8” 130 lbs primarily stomach sleeper. We both really dislike the sinking in feeling of memory foam, so buoyant latex on top has been awesome!
New Mattress Need: Moving into a new house we finally have room for a king mattress, but with Luma Sleep out of business we’re trying to find something with that similar cushioned, but supportive “sleep on top of the bed, not in it” feel.
Based on what we’ve seen in the forums, we’re gravitating toward a couple options:
14” DLX LatexLux Hybrid mattress
Going for an all latex 13” with Sleep EZ
Questions on our mind:
The DLX LatexLux hybrid looks like a solid option similar to our existing mattress, but the latex layer is Dunlop rather than springier talalay. With Dunlop’s progressive firmness, should we think more about “medium” firmness than the “firm” talalay we have today? Do we lose any of the cushioning feeling with Dunlop? We’re just having trouble deciding how big a deal the Dunlop vs. talalay is in practicality.
If we go all latex through SleepEZ, we can have a talalay top layer, but we’re less certain about creating a similar firmness profile with latex throughout vs. our hybrid mattress today. There’s obviously lots of flexibility to dial in firmness with all the layers. The SleepEZ wesbite recommended medium / medium / firm / extra firm based on our details, but I worry about whether the medium top layer will feel too soft like the Luma Sleep medium did at the outset.
If anyone has been in a similar boat, we’d really appreciate any insights! Also we’d welcome any thoughts from @DLX or @Sleep_EZ on how firmness profiles might compare to match the setup we have and like today.
Hi Jags73 and welcome to the forums and thanks for the inquiry! Without having laid on that mattress myself, I can’t tell you how to replicate, but I can say that our initial recommendations have a 90% success rate (we only have a 10% layer exchange rate) so there’s a 90% chance that the website’s recommendation turns out to be your perfect setup. On top of that, we only have a 4% return rate for the organic mattress, and the industry average for mattress returns is 15-20 % with some companies as high as 35%, so 96% of our customers find that they love the mattress even if they have to excange or rearrange layers.
Aside fro all that, please note that our mattress covers have an inch of wool in them, and that inch of wool has a big impact on how much you’re able to sink into the latex, giving the mattress more surface tension and a firmer feel. So the cover would make a soft layer feel more like a medium, make a medium feel more like a “medium-firm” and so on. So there’s no reason to think the recommendation would be too soft for you.
I appreciate the super quick response and good to know the success rate on the website fitting appears to be solid. The detail on the wool cover is also helpful - we hadn’t accounted for the fact that might add some tension and make a medium feel a bit firmer. Thanks for weighing in (and for all the detail you’ve added in other posts I’ve spent time reading through)!
Thanks for all the information. That was very helpful.
Based on what you shared, if you’ve been happy with your Luma Hybrid Slumber System and its separate Talalay topper, we’d actually lean in a slightly different direction.
We’d recommend our Essential 10" paired with a separate Talalay latex topper. We don’t sell toppers ourselves, but companies like SleepEZ are good people and very helpful. We are not affiliated with SleepEZ in any way, but we’ve just had positive experiences with them over the years. You’d be supporting both companies by purchasing the Essential 10" from us and the topper from them. Just don’t forget to order a topper cover as well.
I’d suggest talking with SleepEZ about whether you have a 2" or 3" Firm Talalay topper and confirming the firmness rating of your Talalay.
We believe your Luma used a separate topper rather than integrating the latex into the mattress. If that’s the case, a separate topper creates a different feel because it has more freedom to flex independently, giving a slightly different sensation. We also believe Luma used a very stretchy topper cover, so you were sleeping almost directly on the latex which also contributes to a different feel.
If you can post a photo of your current Luma setup here, we’d be happy to confirm how it’s constructed.
Our Latex Hybrid is a solid choice, but integrating the latex inside the mattress changes the feel somewhat compared to a separate topper. Since you’re trying to recreate something you’ve already found comfortable, I think the Essential plus a Talalay topper gives you the best chance of getting close to that familiar feel.
I hope that helps, and please let me know if you have any questions.
Most of what changes here is the loss of a distinct topper-on-coil structure, which creates a very different pressure curve than integrated latex hybrids. Dunlop over coils will feel more grounded and less elastic at the surface compared to Talalay, even when the nominal firmness looks similar, because it engages the support layer earlier and more directly. At this point, the closest equivalents to that type of layered hybrid construction are usually found with smaller hybrid or custom-focused builders rather than standard retail models. Matelas Personnel, DLX, and a few similar manufacturers tend to operate in that space where layering can be more closely replicated. When you were happiest with the Luma setup, was it mainly the reduced sink, or more the consistency of spinal alignment through the night?