Semi-DIY— bad idea?

So as part of damage control (having bought a mattress without help checking for spinal alignment and only being able to do a confort exchange) I am about to obtain a rock bottom cheap mattress with vertical coils, which is likely the same as this as it’s by the same manufacturer at about the same price point, though it’s 7". The vertical coils seem to be similar to pocket coils, except they don’t have the individual encasement. According to my research it’s got 460 VertiCoil Innerspring; 13.75 Gauge Steel and a foam encasement.

I already have a 2" latex medium topper from SOL, and I was thinking of buying 2" of memory foam from probably foam by mail, in either the 4 or 5 density (probably the 5). I figure the foam in the mattress will probably fail, but it won’t be much and when that happens I can just cut it open and pull the foam out and keep the springs, which even in a cheap mattress like this shouldn’t fail on me.

About how I sleep: I sleep with my partner. I am a side sleeper, 5"7’ 180 lbs with some back issues that the mattress I chose doesn’t work for. I’m a bit of a snowflake, but after testing beds I’ve learned I like latex and I like hybrids with memory foam. Medium beds have been the best for me, and I don’t really like sinking into my bed much. I really enjoyed the serta Stay.

My partner is 230 lbs, 5"1’, so close to the threshold of having durability issues. He sleeps on his back and side, and so far is blessed with being extremely versatile; no bed we’ve tried hasn’t worked for him, though he sleeps hot.

I’m worried about the latex being too firm as the top comfort layer (I’ve only ever tried it on firm beds though), but I’m also not sure about the memory foam being on top because I would probably have to get the 5lb type, which looks like it might have the “sinking” feeling I dislike. The 4 lb looked more suited to what I want, but with my partner’s weight, I’m not sure how well it would hold up.

Anyway, tldr:
Getting a very very cheap firm vertical coil mattress, 2" 5 lb memory foam, 2" medium latex: bad idea or worth a shot? How likely is it that the top two layers will end up being so soft it hurts my back? Or is there not enough transition stuff? And can you substitute a mattress that’s got pretty much just coils instead of using a coil setup from arizona premium? It seems like the coils aren’t usually the weakest point, but maybe I’m being dumb.

My alternative is to just count the money spent on the spring mattress as a total loss and go to a mattress store locally, as I live in DFW where I have two good options, though if the sales person gets it wrong I’m just stuck with something I might hate, as opposed to being able to add some extra layers to my setup. I am very much a diy type in general, so I don’t mind if I end up needing more than just the two layers I was planning on.

Hey rcisaghost,

Welcome to the TMU Forum :slight_smile: ! Thanks for your question.

Okay; indeed rcisaghost, your post is quite a read, lol :wink: . Hope you don’t mind that I quoted your short story version as I’m sorting through all of the details to understand your specific questions. So to recap, you bought a mattress, it isn’t working for your spinal alignment, but that as your only option is a comfort exchange, you are now considering an inexpensive innerspring mattress purchase that you will pair with a 2" latex topper and additional 2" memory foam layer? The Sleepy’s Basic mattress that you linked to revealed nothing in terms of comfort layer construction specs, only some details of its Verticoil innerspring support system. I’d be concerned from a durability standpoint that even for the super-cheap price, you’d be better served skipping a mattress you already expect to “cut open and pull the foam out,” basically starting things over a third time.

While I cannot “recommend” what you should do, I can strongly “suggest” what you could do, and that is before taking on a DIY, consider shopping locally. Research local manufacturers/ retailers in the DFW area; make calls and set appointments for store visits (being mindful of your safety during these COVID times); and test as many mattresses within your budget as possible before making a purchase. To your point on the earlier “checking spinal alignment” lesson learned, ask your partner to snap some pics of your alignment while laying on the different mattresses, that can be most helpful when making comfort comparisons. These Phoenix articles “Finding a Great Mattress Outlet” and “Matttress Shopping Guidelines” are useful for organizing your research before beginning your local shopping. This “Mattress Specifications You Need to Know” is a great resource to create a Q & A checklist for making calls and/ or store visits. Also, TMU trusted member The Mattress Factory has a showroom in your area; you may want to give them a call for a visit too. All of our partner manufacturers/ retailers have extensive experience in component design and a deep understanding of consumer’s preferences, as opposed to “a sales person getting things wrong”. FYI: as a TMU consumer subscriber having made the minimum one post criteria, you are eligible for a small discount that any of our trusted member partners offer on purchase of their products…just sayin’ :wink: .

Keep us updated on which way you decide to go when you have time and good luck :slight_smile: .

Cheers,
Sensei

Thank you for the response Sensei!

I ended up going to the showrooms of City Mattress Factory (CMF) and the Mattress Factory(MF). I found four models that seemed okay, but none of them were like “holy crap, this is the perfect mattress and this is an easy choice”. Almost all of them seemed on the firm side for my taste, though potentially acceptably so, as long as my spinal alignment is good.

The person at CMF was not terribly helpful with advice on spinal alignment, but I’m thinking of posting pictures of my back to see if anyone here could help me instead. ;w; I’m waiting on specs info, but they were all within my budget thankfully.

The person at MF was far nicer, and I definitely felt like he would take good care of me, but I am a little nervous as the one I liked wasn’t broken in yet (someone had very recently purchased their floor model) and they were also outside of my $800 budget, which was raised from my original $600 already. The memory foam he uses is also 4 lbs, which is on the lower end of acceptable for my research and for $1000, I would hope it would be absolutely perfect. It was slightly too firm so I do believe it would soften to the right feel, and he would do a free adjustment if needed, which is a damn good policy. But I don’t like that bed so much that I’m positive it is worth the cost difference; a mattress topper would be far less.

Hey rcisaghost,

And thank you for the update :slight_smile: !

Congrats on taking the time to make store visits, I cannot stress enough how important coupling your PPP/ individual “preferences” research with trying mattresses for comparisons is to making better choices and avoiding returns. And to your point, it may be awhile before arriving at that “holy crap, this is the perfect mattress and this is an easy choice” moment, but with patience and testing, your efforts should eventually be rewarded.

A friendly caveat to your mention of “I am a little nervous as the one I liked wasn’t broken in yet (someone had very recently purchased their floor model)”: don’t confuse the expression of a floor model being “broken in” as necessarily desirable when testing mattresses. Sometimes at a given point in a display’s life cycle, these mattresses are sold at a discount, allowing fresh ones on the floor or new products to be displayed. While there isn’t a “standard” display life of a mattress across showrooms, you are better served testing a bed that will “feel” as closely to what you would expect your new mattress to feel upon delivery.

Keep up the good work and looking forward to future reports :wink: .

Sensei

I considered starting a new thread since DIY is unlikely at this point but, I guess it would make more sense to post here as part of a journey.

I’m going for one more round of testing for support on some beds I like and in all honesty, I really struggle with identifying if my spine is straight. I can’t really feel the difference in 10-20 minutes of laying, apparently; so I took photos, but I don’t know how to parse them. here and I would very much appreciate guidance!!

Hey rcisaghost,

Thanks for the updates :slight_smile: !

We’ll keep your thread going here for now, and when it takes a turn in a more definite direction, the topic can be renamed to something more appropriate for your journey.

Quick note on the tech support issue: the TMU site recently transitioned to a new platform and there are a few issues we have run into, image uploads have been mentioned recently. If you have problems embedding the imgur.com link, the pics can be uploaded as attachments from the text editor/ “Write” view. I’ve reported it and hope to hear more soon.

From the four views/ different mattresses, it initially appears that you have better spinal alignment with both options 1 and 4; however, either options 2 or 3 may be fine also but the pillows paired with those mattresses seem to affect your alignment disproportionately, raising your neck and head somewhat higher or lower than what would be ideal. (Pillows will play a key role in how comfortably you would rest on a new mattress; it’s always a good idea to replace those too if possible.) Were you offered a suggested pillow to compliment the mattresses you tried or did you go with what was displayed? You can always ask about switching display pillows around based on your comfort preferences; that will help create as ideal a testing simulation as possible. What mattresses are these? What are the qualities you liked/ disliked about each? Looking forward to more details when you have time…

Thanks,
Sensei