I’ve been doing a lot of reading the past few days and think I have my choice narrowed down to a Spindle mattress. I swung by a local Sleepy’s to see if they had any similar latex mattresses so I could get an idea of what it would feel like.
While I was there, the sales rep mentioned he strongly favors Talalay latex over Dunlop, because only Talalay is truly “pure”. He said to be skeptical of the spindle site saying “100% natural”, because according to him, there is no such thing as a ‘natural’ dunlop mattress.
But - from what I’ve gathered on the spindle site, their dunlop mattress is, in fact, all natural.
So - what gives? Was this sales rep correct, or uninformed?
[quote]While I was there, the sales rep mentioned he strongly favors Talalay latex over Dunlop, because only Talalay is truly “pure”. He said to be skeptical of the spindle site saying “100% natural”, because according to him, there is no such thing as a ‘natural’ dunlop mattress.
But - from what I’ve gathered on the spindle site, their dunlop mattress is, in fact, all natural.
So - what gives? Was this sales rep correct, or uninformed?[/quote]
Sleepy’s doesn’t carry any mattresses that would be comparable to the Spindle mattress and not surprisingly for a chain store salesperson who are generally very uninformed (and just trying to convince you to buy one of their mattresses before you walk out the door) … the salesperson you talked with at Sleepy’s has no idea what he is talking about.
There is more about some of the differences between Talalay and Dunlop in post #7 here and there is also more about the different types and blends of latex in post #6 here. Both Talalay and Dunlop come in 100% natural versions but 100% natural Dunlop is much more common than 100% natural Talalay. I would also keep in mind that 100% natural latex means that all the rubber used in the latex foam compounding formulation is natural rubber (vs synthetic rubber) but there are also small amounts of other substances used in the formulation to foam and manufacturer the latex (see post #18 here).
Thank you for this info - I tried to bring up the spindle website on my phone to explain that it was truly natural, but the site isn’t optimized for mobile and I could not scroll to see all of the words on the page.
I explained why I was in the market for a new mattress (my current Sealy Posturepedic, roughly 3.5 years old, sags a lot in the middle). He surprisingly wasn’t pushy about selling any of his mattresses, and suggested that I first contact the store where I purchased my Sealy to see if they would assess the bed and possibly replace it under warranty. I’m not sure, but I may have removed the tags from the mattress a while back, so I assume any warranty on it would be automatically voided. I’ll have to check when I get home from work today.
Having said that - if they were willing to replace my Sealy under warranty, would you suggest going that route, or simply moving on and investing in a higher quality bed, such as the Spindle?
If you had to chose one latex mattress - which brand would you choose? Would Spindle be one of your top picks? I’ve read great things about them on this site.
That’s something that only you can decide. While the Spindle is certainly a higher quality/value mattress than anything that Sealy makes and I normally wouldn’t suggest purchasing any major brand mattress … if you qualify for a warranty replacement and the Sealy replacement is a good match for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences) it would be hard to argue with a mattress that only costs you any charges that are involved in a warranty replacement … even if it only lasts for a few years.
You could also sell the replacement and then use the proceeds towards a new mattress as well if you wished to.
While I can certainly help with “how” to choose … it’s not possible to make specific suggestions or recommendations for either a mattress, manufacturers/retailers, or combinations of materials or components because the first “rule” of mattress shopping is to always remember that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved that are unique to each person to use a formula or for anyone to be able to predict or make a specific suggestion or recommendation about which mattress or combination of materials and components or which type of mattress would be the best “match” for you in terms of “comfort” or PPP or how a mattress will “feel” to you or compare to another mattress based on specs (either yours or a mattress), sleeping positions, health conditions, or “theory at a distance” that can possibly be more reliable than your own careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in step 4 of the tutorial) or your own personal sleeping experience (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here).
I’m not sure what you’ve read since you found the site but just in case you haven’t read it yet … the first place to start your research is the mattress shopping tutorial here which includes all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help you make the best possible choice … and perhaps more importantly know how and why to avoid the worst ones.
Two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure you’ve read are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best “match” for you in terms of “comfort” and PPP that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the “value” of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you.
Spindle is one of the members of this site which means that I think very highly of them and that I believe that they compete well with the best in the industry in terms of their quality, value, service, knowledge, and transparency.
If you live within driving distance of Acton, MA then you would be able to try their different layering combinations in person but when you can’t test a mattress in person then the most reliable source of guidance about “comfort” firmness, and PPP is always a more detailed phone conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart (and who isn’t just interested in selling you anything they can convince you to buy) and who can help “talk you through” the specifics of their mattresses and the properties and “feel” of the materials they are using (fast or slow response, resilience, firmness etc) and the options they have available that may be the best “match” for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked or other mattresses you are considering that they are familiar with, and the “averages” of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about “matching” their specific mattress designs and firmness levels to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences (or to other mattresses that they are familiar with) than anyone else.
Sealy has a law tag and a sticker on the underside of the mattress. If either of those are gone then they consider your warranty void.
As Phoenix already mentioned, the salesperson with whom you spoke is truly uniformed. Unfortunately, that’s the norm for the industry, whether from ignorance or a pressured sales pitch, Sounds like it was the former in your case, as the salesperson was nice and wasn’t pushy. Terms like “pure” and “natural” have no true standards, so be sure to read the informative links Phoenix provided to you in post #1.