Stuck between Latex Mattress Factory & DLX! Help choosing firmness level

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Hi there! I’ve been shopping for a new mattress using the wonderful resources of TMU for a few months now and believe I’ve narrowed down my selection to 2 options:

  1. Luxerion Latex Mattress @Latex_Mattress_Fact1
  • Queen 60 x 80
  • 10" height - 3 3" Dunlop layers + 1" cover
  • Medium firmness (Top layer: Medium, Middle layer: Medium, Bottom layer: Firm)
  1. Premiere Hybrid @DLX
  • Queen
  • 8" Advanced Hybrid spring coils + 6" of various foam layers (1.5lb - 2.4lb density)
  • Medium or Firm

Background:

  • I’m a 5’3" 140lb female, typically side / stomach sleeper. Trying to sleep on my back more
  • Partner is a 5’7" 165lb male, typically back sleeper, occasionally side sleeper. Has scoliosis
  • We both commute via car a lot to/from work & work primarily at desks, so support is as important to us as comfort

Current Bed
Been sleeping on a Sealy Posturepedic Response Performance Cooper Mountain IV Plush Pillow Top for the last 6 years. It has suffered from severe sinking & indentations starting around 6 months in. We have had bad back pain as a result. We have regretted the plush pillow top for a few years, and generally find that we have reduced back pain (lumbar and thoracic) after sleeping on medium to firm mattresses, compared to the constant tossing and turning on our current one.

Details

  • From store room tests, we’ve identified a firm support layer and medium comfort layer are likely ideal for us
  • We have always had spring coil mattresses but are very interested in latex. We slept on a latex mattress recently for a few nights and had the best time sleep we’ve had in…a long time. Plus all the benefits we’ve read here!
  • Heat retention is a concern for us, so we are weary of less breathable foams
  • Looking for lower back/lumbar support for both of us.

HELP!

  1. Based on what we mentioned, do you see a benefit to the fully latex vs. coil & foam hybrid for our needs?
  2. What firmness level may be best to try out for the type of sleepers we are with back pain considering the construction of the mattresses we identified?
  3. Our foundation is a wood box spring with slats 4" apart - we’ve read mixed responses on the foundation needs - would this be sufficient for either of the mattresses we identified?

Thanks in advance for all your help!!

-D

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Hi Danid and thanks for the inquiry! We’re not really the pushy type of salespeople, so I’m not going to push the Luxerion on you, but I’m explain to explain some of the benefits of each type of mattress so you can make a more informed decision on this. Latex and coil hybrids typically last 10-15 years and all-latex mattresses typically last 15-20 years. All-latex mattresses offer a much finer degree of adjustability than latex and coil hybrids do. All-latex mattresses can be adjusted to be slightly softer, moderately softer, much softer, or slightly firmer, moderately firmer, much firmer. You can increase the pressure relief slightly, moderately, or vastly. You can increase the back support slightly, moderately, or vastly. Since latex and coil hybrids normally have only 2 components (3” of latex and the coils) you really have limited options to adjust the mattress, and any change that is made is normally a big change. Not everyone needs the level of adjustability that the all-latex mattress offers. As such, customers will choose latex and coil hybrids if they’re 250 pounds or less; like the feel of a latex and coil hybrid; want a mattress with more edge support than all-latex mattresses; like the lower price point; and / or want to retain some of the feel of a standard spring mattress while getting some of the benefits of latex.

If you choose the Luxerion, I think the medium setup should be ideal. You might want to request in the comments section at checkout that you want us to split your layers, just in case one of you wants to change your side of the mattress without affecting your partner’s side. If all of your layers are split, you will always be able to adjust your side without affecting your partner’s side and vice versa, and you’ll have that option for the entire 20 year lifespan of the mattress. Additionally, the mattress will be easier to assemble, easier to move if needed, easier to do any layers exchanges if needed, and easier to return if needed. There really are no downsides to having all split layers. Of course this is absolutely your mattress, and whatever you’d like to do is perfectly fine with us!

Regarding the foundation, I definitely recommend replacing it or getting a 1/2" piece of plywood to put between the mattress and foundation.

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Buy both and try at the same time

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Thanks for the recommendations. We ended up purchasing the Luxerion Latex Mattress in a Queen size with a Medium firmness. @Latex_Mattress_Fact1
We are a little over halfway through our sleep trial now.

We’ve noticed a few issues and are wondering the best path forward to resolve them:

  1. It sleeps hot, which we expected a little bit of, but it’s warmer than we’re comfortable with. We ended up fitting a 1/2" piece of plywood between the mattress and foundation, as suggested. Since there are no slats, we are wondering if it could benefit from us drilling some holes throughout the plywood to improve air flow? Or, would we benefit from a specific mattress protector OR mattress topper?
  2. While our pain has reduced overall while sleeping, we’ve noticed the mattress does not offer as much lumbar support as we hoped, contributing to continued lower back pain. My partner, who has historically slept on his back and prefers to due to his scoliosis, finds himself sleeping on his stomach more than he ever has. I am typically a side or stomach sleeper, and have had better experiences sleeping on my back on this mattress, but my back often hurts after sleeping on my side. We are wondering if we need to replace any of our layers (Medium firmness) or if there is an alternative solution?

Thank you!
-D

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Hey Danid,

I know @Latex_Mattress_Fact1 will likely chime in with suggestions on lumbar support and sleeping positions, but I wanted to share our unique experience because it might be helpful.

Neither my wife nor I seem to sleep hot. Our mattress setup is a bit unconventional, so I thought it was worth mentioning again, even though I’ve covered it before.

We use a very firm, plank luxe mattress. I was eager to add a 3" organic wool topper—not for any particular reason, just to experience it firsthand. We already had a high-quality 90oz down comforter in a cotton duvet cover.

After adding the wool topper, which cost almost as much as the mattress itself, my wife noticed a different sensation. She couldn’t quite put her finger on it, but described it as feeling like a breath of fresh air. To enhance our setup further, I bought a 100% organic wool comforter with a Coyuchi organic cotton duvet cover. My wife wanted to keep her Tommy Bahama duvet cover and matching shams, so we ended up using both.

Here’s the full setup: Mattress with a mattress protector, organic 3" wool topper, wool with a skirted mattress protector to keep it all in place, 100% pima 600tc cotton sheets, a Tommy Bahama mid-weight 100% cotton waffle blanket, a wool comforter inside a 100% cotton duvet, and another down comforter inside a 100% cotton duvet cover.

With wool both directly under and above us, we never feel hot or cold, regardless of the weather or whether the air conditioner is on or off.

The takeaway? Wool keeps you cool in the summer and cozy in the winter. We stay comfortable year-round. If you’re dealing with temperature issues, I recommend getting a high-quality wool topper, preferably organic and untreated so it is not the washable kind.

Will this work for you? Don’t know. But what they say about wool, keeping you cool in the summer and warm in the winter, despite the layers we have on our bed, wool is great. I have done the same thing with my pillows, except I use horsehair, without a long story, horsehair is by far the coolest material you can not only rest your head on, but your entire body, wool is a close second.

All the best,

Maverick

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Hello D,

Thank you for the update! Latex foam is open-celled and breathable, which means it doesn’t trap and hold body heat like closed-celled foams such as memory or poly foams. This is why latex mattresses work well with solid platform foundations, as they don’t require additional airflow.

If you’re finding that your all-latex mattress feels warmer than expected, it’s often not the latex itself but the bedding you use. New bedding materials like sheets, comforters, and mattress protectors can affect how warm or cool your mattress feels. For instance, high-thread-count sheets (over 400) and waterproof mattress protectors can trap heat. Additionally, thicker or differently made comforters can also contribute to a warmer sleep surface.

Regarding comfort, have you tried rearranging the layers of your mattress to adjust the feel? One of the benefits of the Luxerion latex mattress models is that you can unzip the quilted cover and reposition the layers. For a firmer feel, you might try moving the firm layer from the bottom to the middle. Sometimes a small adjustment can make a significant difference.

Remember, you also have a 90-day one-time layer exchange policy. If you need a firmer layer, just call our office to arrange an exchange. The fee for this service is a flat $45.

If you’d like to discuss this further by phone, feel free to call us at 1-800-637-0872. Have a great weekend!

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If your partner is looking for more lumbar support, consider an adjustable bedframe with that feature.