Ten years later, back at tMUG for recs!

Mattress Talk General Mattresses Questions
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So I went down the rabbit hole back in 2014 and ended up with a Dreamfoam (pre-BB acquisition) memory foam mattress with two layers of 4lb density memory foam over a base layer, and it has lasted me the majority of those ten years (exception of about 2 years when I moved before bringing over my mattress). It’s time for a new one, and I’m back down the rabbit hole.

I’m tempted to get an inexpensive Costco Novaform since the foam isn’t the worst at 3lb, but I would love to see what you guys say, so here’s the detailed info:

5’5”, 120-lb combo sleeper; I tend to sleep on my side, sometimes curl over onto my stomach, and about half the time wake up on my back. Im hypermobile with a lot of mild chronic pain issues, so support is important with pressure relief. I don’t like the Tempur “sink”; I do like & prefer some memory foam, but I like to be more on top of the mattress with some give/contouring. Motion isolation is also important. My budget is preferably under $1600 with a little wiggle room.

I’ve tried a handful in store, and I’ll do my best to describe what I’ve liked/disliked:

  • Helix Midnight Luxe: this was probably my favorite, but I have concerns about durability vs price given the foam density of 2.5 and lack of spring gauge disclosure. I liked the medium firmness with a little bit of give.

  • Brooklyn Bedding Aurora Luxe Medium Cloud - comfortable, similarly liked to the Helix, but a little bouncier than I would’ve wanted, and the slip of the Glaciotex would’ve driven me crazy.

  • Leesa + West Elm Natural - probably my second favorite; a little bouncier than the Helix but less so than the BB Aurora, and I do like the more hypoallergenic nature of the materials.

  • Leesa Original Hybrid - too soft overall.

  • Brooklyn Bedding Signature - I don’t have the specs on this as it’s apparently a showroom-only offering, but it’s a dual layer pocketed spring/micro-coil with a thin layer of latex and possibly foam beneath the latex, I’m not entirely sure. This was wonderful but way out of budget at nearly $3k, and without detailed specs I wasn’t going to consider it.

TLDR; I know I like quality memory foam, I’d love to consider a hybrid for longevity/support, I do like a little bit of latex but I don’t want too springy/bouncy so I think if there’s latex involved there probably needs to be some foam as well.

I went to a local BB because I knew they had bought out Dreamfoam, but I wasn’t aware at that point of how many BiaB companies they’ve acquired over the years, and private equity makes me nervous.

If you’ve made it this far…you’re my hero.

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Hi eboldy,

Welcome back to the MattressUnderGround.

Just to get you started, here are the specs of the BB Signature Hybrid.

Soft 3/10 -Base to Top 0.25 Inch Base Support Foam 8 Inch Ascension Coil with perimeter coils 1 Inch
3.5LB 18ILD Variflex Foam
1.5 Inch 3.5LB 13ILD TitanFlex
1 Inch Quilt Foam w/Jones FR Signature Brooklyn Bedding Stretch Knit Cotton Fabric Tack & Jump Quilted Top

Medium 5/10 -Base to Top 0.25 Inch Base Support Foam 8 Inch Ascension Coil with perimeter coils
1 Inch 3.5LB 28ILD Variflex
1.5 Inch 3.5LB 18ILD TitanFlex
1 Inch Quilt Foam w/Jones FR Signature Brooklyn Bedding Stretch Knit Cotton Fabric Tack & Jump Quilted Top

Firm 7/10 -Base to Top
0.25 Inch Base Support Foam
8 Inch Ascension Coil with perimeter coils
2 Inch 3.5lb 28ILD VariFlex Foam
1 Inch 3.5lb 36ILD TitanFlex foam
0.5 Inch Stretch Knit Cotton Fabric Tight Quilted Top w/Jones FR

I know it may be tempting to do the Costco thing, and while there are advantages. If the mattress fails, you can keep returning it as Costco takes anything back.

Since you are contemplating some other more expensive mattresses as compared to the Costco offering.

Brooklyn Bedding uses their own versions of “memory foam” in most of their mattresses, that tend to be less like traditional viscoelastic tempur like memory foam. Most of their memory foams are more like latex alternative foams.

The Signature Hybrid is probably their best all around mattress. At 5’5 120, the Helix Luxe series all offer the enhanced lumbar support, a feature you likely did not have in your Dreamfoam and may not necessarily need.

Not sure where you got the pricing on the BB Signature Hybrid. The king size with cloudtop option is under $1500. I think you may have mixed up a couple of their mattresses. The Sedona contains the micro coils but no latex. The dreamfoam latex, Ecosleep and birch lines use latex.

For some, staying with what is familiar is a comfort zone.

TMU boasts a vibrant community of enthusiasts dedicated to offering latex mattresses and blends of latex with other premium materials.

While we could dissect the merits and drawbacks of each option, it seems you’ve honed in on a select few. Despite reservations about private equity involvement, opting for one of their mattresses crafted here in the USA ensures consistency in quality, utilizing materials of the same high standard they’ve employed thus far.

Admittedly, their acquisition of multiple brands and shared proprietary materials might blur some distinctions between product lines. However, overall, the quality remains largely unchanged. Unless you’re partial to supporting smaller independent manufacturers, which is both admirable and noteworthy, concerns about private equity ownership shouldn’t weigh too heavily on your decision, at least not yet. The real red flag arises if quality begins to wane due to financial considerations overriding product excellence.

Some brands in the market have undergone acquisitions despite not existing as mattress companies. These entities often operate more as marketing firms masquerading as mattress manufacturers, promoting products that appear to boast quality and durability. They may incorporate gimmicky infusions and grids into their offerings, seemingly adding value through flashy advertising. It’s advisable to steer clear of such brands.

Nevertheless, TMU offers a plethora of independent manufacturers to choose from, should you prioritize collaborating with experts to pinpoint your ideal mattress match.

Hopefully, you will have some additional food for thought here.

Have a great weekend and good luck with your decision,

Maverick

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Thanks for the response, Maverick!

Apologies, I misspoke on the Brooklyn with micro coils - it’s a “Heritage” higher end line that they only sell in showrooms, not the Signature. I did briefly try the Sedona as well but it was a little more firm than I liked.

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The heritage looks like an overpriced Ecosleep Luxe. Without knowing all the details, hard to say, but that was the first thing that came to mind without the microcoils. That isnt worth an extra 2k

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If you like the heritage take a look at this one Yawnder Mattress

I realized you budget is 1600. In that range if you want to stick with BB as it is familiar to you, the Ecosleep Luxe would your best choice.

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I’d actually prefer not to go with BB, partly because of the buying-all-the-competition behavior, partly because of the lower foam densities. Considering a latex/pocket coil hybrid and getting a high quality 4lb foam topper as a semi-DIY, actually.

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Then the DLX LatexLux may be your best bet.

Mygreenmattress has a couple of choices, but the 7 zone mattress may not be the best option.

Dlx is a reliable and consistent quality option.