The 10 in. Tuft & Needle Diary

Hi winstont4,

Springs allow for more airflow through a mattress than a foam core and while the upper layers of a mattress that are closer to your skin are the ones that generally have the biggest effect on temperature regulation … the deeper layers can also make some difference as well.

Phoenix

Hey all! We received our T&N King last Wednesday, here are our thoughts so far:

We let ours air out for about 5 days before sleeping on it. We kept the ceiling fan on during the day, walked on it whenever we could (what a workout!), and opened up the blinds to let the sun in and keep the room temperature up to speed outgassing. The smell was never unbearable though, and we both have very sharp senses of smell. Most of the smell dissipated by that 5th day, and since then we’ve only noticed it once or twice overnight. I’m guessing at this rate, it will be totally gone by the end of the week.

Coming from a firm no-name memory foam mattress we purchased from Woot! several years ago, we expected the T&N to be even firmer. After it got up to room temperature from the tundra outside, we were surprised to find that the T&N’s comfort layer actually felt softer! So far, the two nights we’ve slept normally, no better or worse than before regarding comfort or temperature. However, I have noticed that when sleeping on my side, there is less pressure on my shoulders and hips.

Regarding temperature, we tend to sleep hot and use a low-fill down alternative comforter with duvet cover along with “EvenTemp” temperature regulating sheets from Kohl’s. We have not added any kind of mattress cover yet, mostly because we don’t want to inhibit the temperature regulation of the T&N comfort layer. However, if anyone knows of better “cooling” sheets or a mattress cover that wouldn’t affect temperature notably, we’re open to suggestions.

At the moment, we are a bit worried that after break-in this may end up softening beyond than our personal preference, but that’s what the 100 night policy is perfect for! I’ll report back in a couple weeks when we’ve gotten used to it and it’s broken in.

We’re bummed that we missed the AMEX offer and the MU discount by just a few weeks, we really could have used the extra cash now! Hopefully it won’t matter much if we’re happy a few years down the road.

Phoenix, thank you for all the hard work and contributions to this forum again and again. You’ve made a positive difference in the lives of each visitor, lurker, and member of this site. Even if we aren’t conscious of it in our sleep :cheer:

Hi horspowr1001,

Thanks for taking the time to let us know what you ended up purchasing and for sharing your comments and feedback about your new Tuft & Needle mattress. Most importantly congratulations on your new mattress :slight_smile:

Thanks also for your kind comments … I appreciate them as well!

There is more about the different types of mattress protectors and the pros and cons of each of them (including temperature regulation) in post #89 here.

There is also more information about sheets and bedding in post #7 here and the other posts and sources of information it links to that should be helpful as well. Natural fabrics such as cotton, linen, or silk or “semi synthetic” fabrics such as viscose rayon (made from bamboo, beech and other viscose sources) will generally be better at regulating temperature than synthetic fabrics such as polyester. Linen (made from flax) and Silk in particular are very good at regulating temperature.

I’m looking forward to any additional updates you have the chance to share in a few more weeks.

Phoenix

Oops, I did it again!
I just bought a second DreamFoam 12 n 1 foam mattress. I’ve been sleeping on the first one for 3 months now and I am so pleased that I decided to get another one for the second bedroom (At the Condo).
The 12 n 1 is so flexible in that you can easily change the Firmness level by rearranging the color-coded foam layers or just flipping the mattress over. It is hard to go wrong with this mattress.
Pleasant Dreams,
Jeff

Hi jefmoody,

Thanks for the update … and congratulations on your new mattress once again :slight_smile:

Phoenix

I think Novaform mattress is good. Its costly but the lasting support is very good (so far i know :slight_smile: )

About to order a T&N Queen, after having read reviews/specs for most of the ‘disrupter’ mattress on this site. Thanks!

Hi tomrh3,

Congratulations on your new mattress :slight_smile:

I’m looking forward to your comments and feedback once you’ve received it and have had the chance to find out how you like it.

Phoenix

Hi Phoenix!

Meant to update a couple months ago, finally getting around to it. Thank you for the reply and the extra information links!

Obviously we’ve passed our 100 night trial period, and considering I haven’t had a post full of rants yet, you can guess we’ve kept our T&N. We’ve slept comfortably on this mattress so far and the temperature regulation has been good for our preferences. Will have to update on this again as we are further into the summer months.

There hasn’t been any notable softening after 5 months of sleeping on it, and we’ve been somewhat diligent about rotating it with every other sheet change or so.

One thing I noted though, after full expansion, some of the corners of the mattress did stay a bit “rounded” and never became a “sharp” corner as I expected. Not sure if this was an unrealistic expectation. This is not really a problem though as we are really never sitting on the corners.

I also want to point out that my wife is now in her 8th month of pregnancy and she’s been comfortable on the mattress so far. She still has the usual aches and pains of pregnancy as the belly gets bigger, but we don’t think any of that has been exacerbated by the mattress since she usually wakes up feeling better - so I guess that’s a good thing?

Thanks again for all the help and keeping this great source of information going. Planning on posting again in the future as the mattress ages (and so do we).

Hi horspowr1001,

Thanks for taking the time to share an update with your comments and feedback … I appreciate it.

It’s great to see that your mattress choice worked out well for you.

This would be normal

Phoenix

thought I would drop by again and give our thoughts on the T&N bed we’ve had for a year-ish now. IT IS STILL AMAZING. we still find the bed supportive yet fluffily comforting enough that when we lay down/collapse onto the bed, there’s that aaaaaah! moment. temperature has never been an issue (we live in Honolulu, where the summer heat and humidity can be so ew! at night, especially in a house w/o AC). we both sleep peacefully through the night far more often than not (for me, especially, this is amazing because of some health issues that affected my sleep cycle). we remain happy to recommend this bed (and to check out Mattress Underground as part of their research) to anyone who asks. thank you, again, Mattress Underground, for helping us make this decision!

Hi devlynaskurt,

Thanks for taking the time to share your comments and feedback after a year … I appreciate it :slight_smile:

It’s good to see that your mattress choice worked out so well for you!

Phoenix

Wanted to provide a update and provide some additional information most people probably don’t know about. We’ve had our Tuft & Needle since November 2015, although we’ve been happy with it, it’s always been on the firm side for me. I’ve missed the plushness of a mattress that you kinda sink into since we got the T&N. So I did some searching for a topper and came across some mentions of a topper that T&N provides. So I emailed T&N about it and to my surprise, not only do they have one available but they offered it to me for free!

It appears to be a 2" topper inside the T&N cloth cover. The material is same color as the top layer of the mattress, darker gray. It feels really good and makes a really big difference, I don’t know if it’s a less dense material or the same mattress’ top layer.

Anyway, I’m thrilled T&N had a topper available and provided it at not cost. Now I’m really happy with the mattress. So if anyone tries it and wants it to be softer, ask about a topper.

Hi Daniel85,

Thanks for the update … and it’s good to hear that your mattress is working out so well for you with the extra topper.

Phoenix

We purchased and overall liked it. However, when compared to the Leesa (which we purchased right after), the latter had MUCH better edge support, which is important to us. Conversely, the Tuft & Needle was cooler; we used the same sheets and same Saferest waterproof cover.

Hi yazfan,

You could also add another “tradeoff” that for most people the Tuft & Needle mattress would likely be more durable overall than the Leesa mattress which contains a 2" layer of 3 lb memory foam which is a lower quality/density material than the minimum I would normally suggest. I would consider it to be a potential weak link in the mattress even although the 2" of Avena polyfoam above the memory foam would improve the durability of the memory foam somewhat compared to having the same lower density memory foam in the top layer of the mattress.

Phoenix

I can really appreciate all the information about the T&N mattress here. Fortunately, I live in an area where they have a retail store and I’m going to head over and try it out. This will be the first time I’ve ever tried a latex mattress so will be an interesting comparison to the “spring” mattresses I’ve always used …

Hi rsgree62,

There is no latex in the Tuft & Needle mattress. The top comfort layer and the bottom support core are both made from different types and densities of polyurethane foam. There is more about the materials in the Tuft & Needle and many of the other “simplified choice” mattresses in post #2 here.

Phoenix

I ordered a Tuft and Needle mattress from Amazon after receiving rave reviews from a friend. However, after sleeping (well, really not sleeping) on the mattress for four or five days, I am miserable - it is not for me and is too firm.

How do I return the mattress to Amazon to get my money back? I am a 50ish year old single woman and it was difficult to unpack the box…I doubt I will be able to do this on my own.

Unfortunately, I wish I would have made the connection that returns would have to go through Amazon before I purchased through Amazon. Help!

Hi jjslawmom,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :slight_smile:

I’m sorry that your new Tuft & Needle mattress isn’t working out well for you. As you’ve only had it for 4-5 days, it will become a bit more plush as it begins to lose some of its “false firmness” within the first month or so. However, if you decide that you can’t wait that long of if it simply isn’t the best mattress for you, at least you did have the foresight to choose something that does have a good return policy.

Per the Tuft and Needle website:
[i]Is the return process different if I ordered through Amazon?
All returns and customer support questions should go through Amazon’s support within their 100-day trial period. By reaching out to Amazon, they can help arrange for the pickup and refund of your purchase. We’re always here to help with general questions, but they’ll handle all returns or exchanges.
Follow these few steps to begin your Amazon return:

  1. Go to the Amazon return page at Amazon.com
  2. Find your item in the list
  3. Click “Return or Replace Item”
  4. Amazon will help schedule a removal or arrange return shipping
    If your mattress was purchased directly from Tuft & Needle, then we will handle all aspects of your order and you can reach out to us by email, chat, or phone for help with returning or claiming the warranty.
    [/i]
    You won’t be expected to try and compress the item and place it back in the box.

You may always contact Tuft and Needle directly with any general questions, but the actual return process will have to be coordinated through Amazon.

I hope that information is helpful.

If you’re considering a new mattress after this, the first place to start your research is the mattress shopping tutorial here which includes all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help you make the best possible choice … and perhaps more importantly know how and why to avoid the worst ones.

Two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure you’ve read are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best “match” for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, and PPP that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the “value” of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after a purchase if your choice doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for).

Outside of PPP (which is the most important part of “value”), the next most important part of the value of a mattress purchase is durability which is all about how long you will sleep well on a mattress. This is the part of your research that you can’t see or “feel” and assessing the durability and useful life of a mattress depends on knowing the specifics of its construction and the type and quality of the materials inside it regardless of the name of the manufacturer on the label or how a mattress feels in a showroom or when it is relatively new so I would always make sure that you find out information listed here so you can compare the quality of the materials and components to the durability guidelines here to make sure there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to the durability and useful life of a mattress before making any purchase.

Regarding the use of reviews, there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved in choosing a mattress for someone else to make specific suggestions based on specs (either yours or a mattress) or theory at a distance that can possible be more accurate than your own careful and objective testing (using the testing guidelines in the tutorial post) which is always the most reliable way to predict which mattress will be the best match for you in terms of PPP (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here). In other words … reviews or other people’s experiences in general won’t tell you much if anything about the suitability, quality, durability, or “value” of a mattress for any particular person (see post #13 here).

Phoenix