Today, I ordered this bed in a queen (Ultimate Dreams 13") off Amazon (order fulfilled by DreamFoam). A few hours ago, Iād visited a local mattress store and fell in love with the Tempur Cloud Luxe. However, I could not make myself spend $4,200. I was previously considering the PacBed from BedInABox.com but this site gave me pause because of the the 3lb foam PacBed uses.
I will return and post a thorough review (in a separate post) for you all.
Hi pcunite,
Congratulations on your new mattress 
Iām looking forward to your feedback when you receive it and have had the chance to sleep on it for a bit.
Phoenix
Thanks everyone for your help on this topic. Iāve been looking at this mattress for awhile and after testing the TempurPedic Cloud Luxe and reading what everyone had to say about how this model compares to it, we felt like this mattress was a reasonable gamble for the money. Thanks to everyone who has contributed a review.
Hi ghostrider22,
Congratulations on your new mattress
I hope you have the chance to share your experience on the forum when you receive it.
Phoenix
This mattress sure looks like one of the better deals discussed on this site. I had been leaning towards the Bamboo Bliss ($1,045) directly from BB, since it isnāt too much more $$ than the Amazon āalmostā equivalent Ultimate Dreams Eurotop ($899) (not equivalent due to wool cover and base foam density). But the UD 13" Gel at Amazon ($816), which appears to be the equivalent of BB Cool-Lux ($1,234), is considerably less at Amazon; from the pictures and description I canāt see much difference (1/2" more base layer on the Amazon version).
I have a āfeelā for what the Bamboo Bliss might be like, with swappable firmness choices, #6 is probably my selection since we have an Ultimate Dreams full #8 and find it a little soft. The 13" Gel just says āsoftāā¦ what would that be, about a #8?
Iāve read memory foam and latex both lose the smell after a day or two. Or does one have more or less of an odor? I can still smell the Latex after 3 weeks, but is weak and doesnāt bother me.
Didnāt think selecting a mattress would be so much workā¦ either option have a lot of positive reviews. So many thanks to Phoenix, where do you find the time!
I can try the Tempurpedic Cloud-Luxe locally, if we like it, we should like the UD 13" Gel, right?
Hi tcat007,
BB has about 4 or 5 different types of memory foam that they use in their mattresses so the type of memory foam in each may be different (you could ask for specifics), the thickness of the 5 lb memory foam is different (the BB Cool Luxe has 2.5" vs 2"), and the base layers (1.5 lb density vs 2.17 lb density) are different. I donāt know if the covers are different but the Cool Lux uses a knit cotton cover. They will certainly tell you about any other differences between them when you talk with them on the phone. They also have different return policies.
While ācomfortā is subjective ā¦ most of the people who have purchased the Amazon 13" Gel mattress have said that it is about the same softness level as the Tempurpedic Cloud Luxe ā¦ perhaps just a little firmer. The BB Cool Luxe may be a little softer yet.
It can sometimes vary from mattress to mattress but in most cases any smell dissipates to low levels in a few days or less or in some cases a few weeks (depending on the mattress and on the sensitivity of the person). They could probably tell you if their customers have made more āodorā comments about one or the other but I donāt think this would be a factor in most peopleās purchase decision between them.
Ironically enough ā¦ I donāt sleep much since I started this website
Both mattresses use the Tempurpedic Cloud Luxe as a reference but they are slightly different.
You are choosing between āgood and goodā and both would make good choices if the Tempurpedic Cloud Luxe is suitable for your body type and sleeping positions in terms of PPP so your final choice would really depend on the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you.
Phoenix
Wow! I made the āmistakeā of going to a local āSleep Expertsā to lie on a Tempurpedic Cloud Luxeā¦ really didnāt like it at all. Felt like quick sand. Unfortunately I lied on 3 or 4 others that I liked, now I have no clue what I want. I thought a ācheapā $700 Kingsdown set was comfortable. I think the one I liked most was a 12" Technogel, supposedly latex foam base and gel foam top (he wasnāt sure of the inches). They has a Beautyrest āblackā that was comfortable, he had a floor special at $1750ā¦ that doesnāt sound too āspecialā.
If this Ultimate Dreams 13" Gel is anything like the Cloud-Luxe, I know I have ruled that out. Back to thinking a 12" Bamboo Bliss may be the way to go., although several of the Beautirest āgel topā seems as springy as latex, and probably something my wife might like. Pretty sure sheād like that Technogel, but it was like $3Kā¦
I did try an adjustable base, they are very cool, may be something we get! Back to scratching my head.
Hi tcat007,
Unfortunately ā¦ when you test mattresses that donāt provide the information about what you are testing then unless you buy that specific mattress the time you spend is mostly wasted and there is no way to make meaningful comparisons with other mattresses or use them as reference points.
According to Dreamfoamās description and some of the feedback from forum members ā¦ their 13" gel memory foam mattress is similar to the Tempurpedic Cloud Luxe in terms of softness or perhaps a little firmer. This is why itās so useful to test a mattress that they provide as a guideline so that you donāt make a purchase that isnāt likely to be suitable for you.
The Beautyrest āgel topā isnāt latex and they donāt provide the information you would need to make meaningful comparisons with a latex mattress or with any other mattress for that matter and the only way to compare the āfeelā would be with side by side testing. Unless the top layers are similar to the Bamboo Bliss in terms of the type of material and softness of the material it wouldnāt make a useful reference point.
You can see some thoughts about the Technogel Estasi in post #2 here although the Estasi + may have a different design. Sleep Experts lists it as ālatexā even though the Technogel site doesnāt list any latex at all in its mattresses outside of the Armonia. You can check the law tag to see if it lists any latex in the mattress.
Phoenix
Well, I just bit the bullet and ordered a Bamboo Bliss #6. I feel itās worth the extra $144 to get the wool top and free option to exchange the latex layer (and get 2 free pillows), that almost wipes out the price difference! Thanks so much for all your lengthy comments. I pretty much read all the reviews, and with so many 5 star reviews it canāt be too bad!
Now to decide if we want an adjustable bedā¦ :unsure:
Hi tcat007,
Congratulations on your new mattress
I think you made a great choice in terms of quality and value and best of all you can still make comfort changes if your choice isnāt quite what you wanted.
Iām looking forward to your feedback when you receive it.
While of course I canāt help you with whether to buy an adjustable bed because thatās a preference issue ā¦ I can tell you that we still really like ours although we donāt use the massage feature as much as we thought we would. We use it mostly for reading, watching movies, or working in bed on ālazyā days. For us at least it was a āluxuryā more than a ānecessityā but we still think it was worth it.
Phoenix
Any chance you can give us some initial feedback? I would love to hear you thoughts now and again 2-3 months down the road.
Jeff
Well, I just placed the order for the Ultimate Dreams 13 Cal King. I spoke with Chuck via e-mail so I could get the pillow as well. I also ordered the Sleep Tite Mattress Protector and the Sleep Master Platform for it.
I would imagine, being Christmas and all, I wonāt see it until the end of the week, but I will sure be back to give updates! I cannot WAIT to drag this nasty old cratered mattress to the curb! I actually woke up with this headache a couple of weeks ago that sent me to the ERā¦ Iām STILL fighting it, although itās better than it was. Mind you, it may not totally be the mattress that did it, but I blame it anyway. 
ANYTHING will be better than what we currently have, so I would imagine that even if this one isnāt perfect, I will love it just the same.
Thanks for everything here! You made the process much easier. I am so glad I found you! Plus, I get a free pillow!
Hi TheKdd,
Thanks for the kind words ā¦ and congratulations on your new mattress
Iām looking forward to your feedback once you receive it. It sounds like it will be none to soon!
Phoenix
Hi there everyone! I thought I would come back and update you on my mattress, therefore bumping kind of an old thread. :whistle:
Anyway, we received the mattress right before the end of the year, so itās been what, about 3 months now.
Our initial reaction was good for both of us. My husband likes his mattresses normally a bit firmer than this, but was still ok with it. I like mine a bit softer so this seemed perfect. At first, we threw our old 3" gel memory foam topper (that was kinda new) on top but that made it WAY too soft and squishy, so we put that away.
First few nights we both seemed to have some back aches, but they were aches in different locations than usual. (Mind you, we were coming from a 20 year old innerspring, so NOTHING could be worse.) We figured it was just our bodies adjusting though and seemed to be correct in that assumption. After about a week, we were both sleeping like babies.
Neither one of us found the mattress to be too warm. We did buy a mattress protector. My daughter (who we bought the same mattress for in Full) does complain once in awhile about being too warm however. She has the same mattress protector so I guess itās just based on our different body temps, rooms etc.
After 3 months, there are a couple of downsides I have found so far.
With it, we ordered the metal platform bed frame. It sits higher off the floor than a standard box which is nice (you can store more stuff under there) so that was a plus. The downside is this mattress seems to slip away from the wall itās up against (we donāt use a headboard) so every couple of days I need to push it back against the wall. Itās not that big of a deal though and probably nothing a little rubber tape or something for grip would fix. One day I will get to that.
The second problem I have run intoā¦ My husband and I watch TV a lot in our room, so I use the area under the head of the bed to sit in a lot. Indian style, what have you. It seems me sitting there constantly has made that area softer than the rest of the bed and sometimes makes me quite uncomfortable when I do actually lay down to sleep. I know the fix is probably just to stop doing that, or start sitting in different locations on the bed every day, (or watch TV in a different room haha) but that kinda stinks. And, you canāt flip the mattress. We will probably rotate soon though.
I have a problem with RLS, have had it for most of my life (runs in the family)ā¦ I was hoping a good memory foam mattress would help that. I can honestly say that itās better than it was, not every night like it used to be, but it still does happen on occasion. (Searching on the internet I know many people that were asking about this about mattresses in general.)
Letās see, what else is thereā¦ Oh sheets. This mattress is pretty thick. My old sheets fit okay (they were deep pocketed to begin with) and I had bought new deep pocket sheets with elastic bands on the edges to keep them down. It seems to work pretty well with only a slip or two here and there.
We had also gotten a free latex pillow complimentary when mentioning Mattress Underground. My husband likes his a lot while I find it too high, heavy and a bit hard. I guess itās personal preference. I am grateful for the pillow however! Thanks MU!
All in all I would say it was a very good purchase so far. Iām hoping to solve the softness issue somehow, maybe put my big butt elsewhere I guess.
If anyone has any further questions, maybe something I didnāt cover, let me know!
Hi TheKdd,
Thanks for the update and for taking the time to share your experience ā¦ I appreciate it
While there is a wide range of heights available for bedframes, foundations, and mattresses which together will add up to the height of your sleeping surface ā¦ a typical metal bedframe is about 7" - 7.5" high and a āstandardā foundation would be in the range of 8" to 9" so the combination together would normally be somewhere in the range of 15" to 16.5". A fairly āstandardā height of a sleeping surface would be somewhere in the range of about 26" give or take an inch or two so yours (14" + 13" = 27") would be in a fairly ānormalā range although it may be higher than what you were used to with your previous sleeping surface.
This would be normal for any foam material (to different degrees depending on the type and density of the material) which will soften more under the more concentrated weight of sitting ā¦ particularly in the first few months.
I would definitely suggest rotating your mattress on a regular basis for any mattress to even out the softening (see post #2 here).
An adjustable bed or a foam wedge behind your back (something like one of these or this) will also support some of your weight and reduce the weight concentration when you are sitting up and help slow down the process.
Phoenix
Thanks so much Phoenix! We have already rotated the mattress after reading your post. It feels better already. I will be getting a wedge of some sort to lay back on rather than sit so I can evenly soften the mattress more evenly.
As far as the platform, thatās what I meant. Itās still as high as our old frame/box springs off the ground, but because itās a platform, it allows us to store taller boxes and what not under which is nice. It also apparently allows the cat to play under there haha. I have always liked a taller bed so having this one match our previous is nice.
Hi TheKdd,
Most of the cats I know think that their ārequirementsā are the most important part of any decision in the household
Phoenix
Hi all,
First time post here but have already read the forums pretty extensively. I still havenāt found exactly what Iām looking for thoughā¦
In my research, Iāve been favoring a King Ultimate Dreams 13" Memory Foam. My wife and I have noticed for years we sleep well on the Memory Foam mattresses at Marriott hotels when we travel. So, I started out looking for something similar to this. I came across the UD 13" on Amazon and saw that it compares to the Tempurpedic Cloud Luxe.
We tried a few of the Tempurpedic mattresses in-store and found we like the Cloud Luxe best but like the Cloud Luxe Breeze even better. Weāre both hot sleepers and on our current old innerspring we have to turn the air down to 67 or 68 most nights to stay cool. Iād read that memory foam mattresses can sleep hot and this concerns me, particularly with ordering a mattress off the Internet. The Marriott mattresses never seem to but our innerspring does. I found the Marriott Foam mattress they sell online and all the disclose is that it is a ā9ā deep foam mattress with a 10.5" box spring". They sell that for $1650 though and the UD seems like it would be better quality and value.
I found the BB PureCool Luxe that claims to compare to the Cloud Luxe Breeze but getting that in a King would be $2300 vs. $900 and would be out of our price range. Weād really like to stay under $1000 but get the best mattress to fit our needs(which is why the UD 13" is appealing).
My question for the forum(and why I bumped a somewhat old thread) is am I missing any other alternatives? Is the UD 13" likely to bother us heat wise? If it does, would a mattress protector or something else help us with our heat problems? Is there any better mattress for us(side sleepers, prefer plush more than firm, tend to get hot) in the under $1000 price range than the UD 13"? Thanks for your help and thanks for even having this website! I would have never thought about half of what Iām thinking about without your help.
Hi scar4343,
The list of the better online memory foam retailers and manufacturers Iām aware of (including Dreamfoam and Brooklyn Bedding) is in post #12 here. As you probably know ā¦ Dreamfoam is one of the members here which means that I think very highly of the quality/value of the mattresses they make and they compete well with the best in the industry.
Some people will sleep warmer on any type of memory foam (gel or otherwise) or even on any softer foam mattress so itās not really possible to predict for any specific person. Even though most people would be fine ā¦ any memory foam mattress (or even gel memory foam) can sleep warmer for some people. There is more about the many factors that can affect sleeping temperature in post #2 here and the posts it links to.
As you suggested, the type of mattress protector you use along with your sheets and bedding can also have a significant effect on sleeping temperature. There is more about the pros and cons of different types of mattress protectors in post #89 here and more about different types of fabrics and sheets in post #7 here and the other posts and topics it links to.
There are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved for anyone to be able to use a formula or ātheory at a distanceā to predict which mattress may be best for you (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here).
While itās not possible for someone else to tell you which specific mattress to choose ā¦ itās certainly possible to help with āhowā to choose. The most important part of the āvalueā of a mattress purchase is always how well a mattress matches your specific needs and preferences in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences). In the end, only your own personal experience can confirm this.
Outside of the suitability of a mattress ā¦ the quality and durability of the materials in the mattress would be the next most important part of deciding which mattress was ābest for youā. There is more information about foam quality/density guidelines I would suggest in post #4 here.
Once you are confident about the suitability of a mattress and the quality/density and durability of the materials ā¦ then the other parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price and any return or exchange options) and how they all compare to your other finalists would also be significant parts of the āvalueā of a mattress purchase and which of your final choices would be the best value for you.
Phoenix
Phoenix thanks for the fast reply and all the recommended readingā¦ Itās good to get some specific posts to read from you as thereās just SO much information on this site that it can overwhelm. Iāll read them all and let you know if I have more questions. Iāll make sure that I post what we decide on and any feedback that we have. Youāve been amazingly helpful! Thanks again!