First, thank you for saving me 2500 on a Serta Optimum I almost bought. Was completely clueless on mattress, thought the more expensive the better heh.
I was about to seal the deal with the eurotop from ultimate dreams but decided to check the forums one last time when I stumbled on a post about Brooklyn bedding having their on site! I was too excited to check it out to only find different mattress such as the aloe Alexis. Now Iām stumped on the eurotop and Alexis. Alexis is 200 more but two free pillows if you ālikeā them on Facebook, 120 day layer exchange and 5% off I think?
I have always slept on very thin springy mattress, used comforters as toppers. I crave a soft yet supporting mattress. 14" and 12" a big difference? In your opinnion, comfort and quality wise which would be better?
Also I would most likely be happy with either or, just looking for better value.
Thank you.
The rough equivalent to the Dreamfoam Eurotop in terms of mattress thickness would be the Bamboo Bliss which is $300 more in queen (you have to select the size on their site to get the price) but has a nicer cover with wool in the quilting (the cover is a significant part of the cost of a mattress), comes with 2 free pillows (for as long as this promotion continues), a higher quality/density base foam, a better return and exchange policy, and of course the 5% TMU discount which they have agreed to apply for members here even with the 2 free pillows. The TMU ābonusā for the Dreamfoam Eurotop is a shredded latex pillow. The equivalent in terms of feel and performance and basic construction would be the Cotton Camilla which is not quite as thick but has the same components and has fewer firmness choices.
The Alexis on the other hand has two layers of latex (6" in total") as well as a wool quilted Aloe cover and the same exchange and return policy as well as the pillows and 5% discount but is another $200 yet.
The biggest difference between the Alexis and the Eurotop besides the wool quilted cover would be the extra 3" of latex which is a more adaptable, responsive, and higher quality material than polyfoam. You would have latex in both the comfort and transition layers. This would be closer to an all latex mattress than a 3" comfort layer over polyfoam. This along with the wool in the quilting would be a much bigger part of its āvalueā than just an extra 2" in height.
All of these are great value but have slightly different features so until they have finished the transition for most of their mattresses from Amazon to their own site you have the choice between them and can choose the one that best matches your own personal āvalue equationā. It may not be an easy choice
As you can see here (a comparison with a latex/polyfoam hybrid to an all latex mattress) I personally would tend towards more latex if I could comfortably afford it because of the way it feels and performs but of course that would only be my personal preference and the extra latex comes with a price which not everyone may be willing or able to pay.
Iām glad this site exists - there is a ton of great information!
After researching for a few weeks about online bed purchases, Iām wrestling with a similar comparison between the Brooklyn Bedding selection. Iām sure the basic version (Cotton Camilla - 1" foam, 3" 5 lb foam, 6" HD foam core) would be a large improvement over my current futon. From there, Iām not sure if either the Bamboo Bliss (increased to 8" HD foam core) or Aloe Alexis (8" foam core, second 3" 5 lb foam) would be a worthwhile upgrade.
After looking at a number of different mattress sources, I feel most confident with Brooklyn Bedding due to the layer swapping policy and the pattern of strong reviews for their other mattresses on Amazon.
I think one of the most significant differences between the Camilla and the Bamboo bliss is the wool in the cover which would add to the humidity control and temperature regulation of the mattress (wool is one of the best temperature regulators in a quilting layer)
The most significant part of the upgrade to the aloe alexis is the extra transition layer of latex instead of polyfoam because latex is a much higher performance (and more costly) foam.
Having said that I also understand that it can be difficult to decide between options that have very good value when the differences are mostly about about personal preferences. I would also suggest that a conversation with Chuck may help as well.
So I have decided to go with the Aloe Alexis, the extra 3" of latex was very appealing to me after reading your post. It comes Monday and Iām super stoked to give you guys a review on it.
And again, thank you for this wonderful site! I had no clue latex mattresses even existed. I am all for quality and you get what you pay for and I donāt think I would have got that with Optimum.
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I am in love with my new mattress, much thicker than I thought, meaning I need an actual foundation instead of my old box spring. I already have my own bed frame so do these metal types just go over that?
You can tell Brooklyn Bedding takes pride in their work. It is so nicely detailed and the appearance all around is just great. For the first time I can truly say that my entire body relaxed as I layed on it. It was awesome! I hadnāt found a latex mattress in the stores to test drive so I didnāt really know what to expect when first laying on it. Very different than memory foam and I liked that it has that ābounceā, since I have two herniated disc and a sciatic nerve in my left leg I toss and turn at nights, this little bounce helped me move better than the memory foam I had previously tried.
I went with a level 8 firmness and was worried after reading more reviews from their amazon store that I had went to soft and that their would be no support for my back. I am very happy I went with an 8. Feels like a pillow top and I donāt really sink in like I thought I would which is good. Oh, and it is very supporting. The mattress feels that little gap where my back curves and puts pressure on my lower back, I havenāt felt pain on my herniated disc because of this, so I sleep better.
I think this mattress retains more heat than my other spring one did. My hubby woke up drinched in sweat, he even placed a towel under him last night. Iām not really sure if its the mattress or the feather down comforter we are using. Iām going to switch to a thin quilt and see if that helps any.
Iām not quite sure what you mean by the āmetal typesā of foundation. If you mean the 14" type like this ā¦ then it should fit inside your bedframe with the slats and center rail removed. If you mean a metal grid foundation like this or a slatted wood foundation like this, then it would go on top of the slats in your bed and you would also need to make sure that the center rail in the bed had good support to the floor to make sure it didnāt sag. If your bed already has slats that are strong enough and close enough together to support the mattress like this then you wouldnāt need a foundation at all except if you needed the extra height. You can also attach a headbord and footboard to the 14" metal platform frame as well. Your mattress will generally do better on a firm and non flexing foundation that a box spring with springs in it which are usually (but not always) used for innerspring mattresses.
Post #2 here and post #29 here may help you track down where the heat is coming from. Since your mattress has wool in the quilting and a cotton/viscose cover itās not likely to be part of the problem which means that it could be the mattress protector you are using (the thinner waterproof kind can sleep warmer than the other types mattress protector because they arenāt as breathable as the ones that are only water resistant or moisture absorbing), your sheets (polyester is warmer than natural fibers), anything else that you are using on top of the mattress, or the bedding (your comforter). It could also partly be the softness of the mattress because the deeper you sink into a foam layer the warmer it can be. It could also be a combination of all of these but as you suggested the first thing I would check is the down/feather comforter.
I decided Iād come back and give my monthly review and add pictures since I forgot to do that last time. I really stink at doing reviews so Iāll try to make sense heh.
I LOVE THIS MATTRESS. I find myself liking it more and more as the nights pass. It has softened a little, just a smidge, which I expected and am more than okay with. To me, the mattress is pretty darn close to āsleeping on a cloudā feel. I donāt think it states on the website (not that I could find, at least) that the second 3" layer of latex is more firm. I went with a level 8 (19) which my first layer had on it in red marker and I just seen the second layer that had a (24) on it. I had thought theyād both be (19) the firmer the better for lasting longer, eh? =]
Its dorky but Iām so impressed with this company and how well made the mattresses are that I want to advertise them myself, just to get the word out but they and this (mattress underground) place seems to be doing a pretty good job at it. The next few months ill be purchasing the Cotton Camilla 10" in twin size for my three year old. Iām excited at the simple fact that I wonāt be putting him on some crappy mattress.
Congratulations on your purchase. I, too, bought the Aloe Alexis and love it as well. Coincidentally, I just typed up a review that Iām going to post right now.
Thanks for taking the time to add such great feedback and a āmonthly reviewā to the forum
The forum has an issue with adding pictures in Firefox for some reason that I havenāt been able to track down (and Iām hoping that the next software upgrade fixes it) but I can add them in Explorer so if you send them to me at the contact address at the top of the page I can add them to your post if youād like.
You can actually choose any firmness you like for the two latex layers in the Alexis but their āstandardā layering is that the middle layer is one step firmer than the top layer which is a āprogressiveā construction because the middle layer contributes to both comfort/pressure relief and support/alignment and itās generally better to have it firmer than the top layer.
I have been researching new mattresses for months now and joined TMU awhile back, but this is my first post.
I think after reading through multiple threads here and seeing what is out there for my price point, I will be going with an Aloe Alexis from Brooklyn Bedding! My wife and I are side sleepers and I have been experiencing back and hip pain on our cheap Samās Club Serta pillow top (2 years old). I think Iāll go with the standard 6 level to start with and give it a month or so to see how we feel. Weāre both relatively light (Iām 6ā0", 175 and sheās 5ā6", 120), so hopefully the level 6 gives us enough plush feeling while still providing support.
I plan to look through everything again during lunch and hopefully place the order! This site and the 5% off plus 2 free pillows through Facebook have helped push me to Brooklyn Bedding as a great value.
Just wanted to say thanks for your review. I too am currently in the market for a new mattress and from what Iāve been reading here and around the internet, there is nothing but good things said about Brooklyn Bedding and their products. Iām looking into the Aloe Alexis but am still a bit unclear with firmness levels.
I hope you have the chance to let us know what you end up choosing ā¦ and if youāve already pulled the trigger ā¦ then congratulations on your new mattress
@ hopheadred,
I think the best way to gain clarity about latex firmness levels would be with some local testing on various latex mattresses which can give you some insight on what the ānumbersā mean to you in your personal experience because softness and firmness can be very subjective and vary with each person depending on their body type, sleeping style, and personal preferences and perceptions.
The next most helpful suggestion would be a more detailed conversation with the manufacturer who can give you some guidance based on the āaveragesā of their customers that can also help you make better choices.
Thanks for starting this topic and the reviews. I am currently shopping for a new mattress and I think Iāve narrowed it down to the either the Eurotop or the Aloe Alexis. Iāve talked to Chuck (very helpful BTW) and he recommend a firmness level of 6 for me (280lbs, stomach) and my wife (130, side). I am leaning towards the Aloe because of my weight and the longer expected durability. The extra price is a challenge, though it does seem a worthwhile investment. Maybe Iām misreading things, but the discussions seem to indicate that you can get the Aloe through both Dreamfoam and through Brooklyn Bedding. Is this correct? If so, whatās the difference between getting from one vs the other?
The Alexis used to only be available through Brooklyn Bedding but when Brooklyn Bedding introduced their new āsimplified choiceā mattress called BestMattressEver (see post #1027 here) it replaced all the previous mattresses that they used to list on the Brooklyn Bedding site. There was a period of time during the transition where you could still order their previous mattresses through Brooklyn Bedding but they have since switched some of the more popular models (such as the Alexis) to the Dreamfoam site.
At this point they are only available through Dreamfoam.
I really stink at doing reviews so Iāll try to make sense heh.
