After a lot of reading stil have questions.

[phoenix]

Hi KrazyPanda,

Yes good observation i did change direction since i settled for the kingdown sonomia ii, even if the 3 inch confort zone as an mysterious density…LIke u mentionner it might be a weak link but underneath there is like 900 pocket colis springs to support (so even if the foam collapses im still on a good amount of springs,

This is a very risky choice and I think that you may come to regret it sooner than you may believe. The upper layers are the weakest link of a mattress and if they soften or compress prematurely then no matter what is underneath it you can lose the comfort/support that is the reason you purchased the mattress in the first place. Again … this is a very risky choice that I would strongly suggest you reconsider.

Based on dreamfoam set up for latex they use no comfort zone

Based on dreamfoam set up for latex they use no comfort zone and its more pricy …here in canada

I’m not sure what you mean by this. All their mattresses have comfort layers.

Plus i like the idea of having an hybride , i agree that big companys dont always give out there densitys and all the technical information but some Simmons have like 5 layers of foam , memory , latex, and the colis underneath, this gives an interesting mixture and its harder to analyze the more layers there is my bed has like 1 layer…so its like less hard to figure out…But they are constantly changing the layers patterns and studying the technologies to make a good comfort zone , im pretty sure Simmons is trying there best to make very comfortable beds, but has for there durability well this is also luck related i know a of people who kept there beds for 20 years so if the fabrics are the same in all the lines except some defect ones , i think its a safe buy even if u dont consider the density , with warranty now a day even if the bed is not durable u get a new one…I want to support better companys too but i dont think the big brands are a bad choice even , part of them not wanting to give out the density is to not reveal there production strategys to the compétition, just trying to look at things from another angle.

I’m not sure how you came to believe all of this but it certainly isn’t accurate and it also doesn’t reflect the facts and history of the industry over the last 15 - 20 years (see post #15 here and post #404 here and post #12 here among many others on the forum that discuss this).

I would also read post #174 here about warranties because they only cover defects and not the loss (sometimes rapid) of comfort and/or support that is the main reason that people normally need to replace their mattress. Warranties have very little to do with the durability or useful life of a mattress or “getting a free mattress” during the warranty period if you can no longer sleep well on it.

Of course you are always free to decide on any purchase based on what you believe regardless of its accuracy but you are heading in a very risky direction and the least I can do is caution you so at least you have the chance to reconsider your options.

The mattress shopping tutorial also includes this link to a list of some of the better online options that ship across Canada.

Phoenix