Choosing a new mattress to replace saggy TP pro adapt firm

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Hello all. We are looking to replace our saggy TP. We loved it for years but have both lost weight and the sag plus being too firm is starting to hurt. We are both side sleepers, 5’11 230lb and 5’10 240lb. Both have had spinal fusion , and we both get hip and shoulder pain / not much back pain. We like just firm enough that we sink in evenly but are still well supported.

In the past we had bad experiences with hybrids but were heavier then and I assume technology has advanced in the decade since we regrettably bought a beauty rest black. So, open to hybrid or pure foam of some kind.

We like the feel of the new TP luxe adapt medium hybrid but I want to spend a little less. I don’t mind spending for a mattress but a 5 year lifespan on a $5k mattress is disappointing.

Looking at the helix midnight luxe/brooklyn aurora luxe which seem to be about the same ? But open to other options. Saatva rx seems made for us yet is crazy soft. Bear and nolah look like they have side sleeper friendly mattresses too. A bit overwhelmed by the options and not interested in learning every aspect of mattress construction to make a decision.

Made in USA highly preferred.

Thanks in advance for your assistance!

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If you like the feel of the TP (not my cup of tea) and would like a better quality, less hot, longer lifespan, better warranty then look at the Tempflow mattress. Tempflow has been around for years, and has more than captured the essence of TP, but in many ways exceeded it with its patented air flow transfer system. Plus, it has something like a 40 year warranty.

In your weight categories, you do have a host of options. Although I am a big fan of Brooklyn Bedding and the 3z brands as I own 3 of them currently, you really need a mattress that provides superior support. In the helix series that would be the Helix Plus Series, Nolah the Evo Comfort +, Leesa Plus Hybrid and the Brooklyn Bedding Plank Luxe or Titan series.

You may also want to consider the @BackScience 2 with enhanced lumbar support.

Also, while latex has a different feel than you are accustomed to, you would be surprised at the comfort and durability you might get from a firm density latex mattress from any of the excellent Trusted Members here at TMU.

Plus might take a peek at Engineered Sleep and DLX as both offer memory foam and latex options.

While you are contemplating all of these options, I can not stress enough some of the mistakes mattress consumers make, when buying their foundations, adjustable bases and pillows. Not that the two of you are super plus sized, but a robust foundation, with slats less than 3" apart and appropriate center supports, with slats that will remain rigid enough not to flex and cause sagging to your mattress. Pillows that are mated to the mattress and sleeper profile so you maintain proper posture and alignment. Sheets that breath, so you dont sleep hot, preferably cotton or natural fibers. All key elements and components that are often over looked or not budgeted properly in the cost of your new bedding set-up.

All the best on your journey to a more supportive, comfortable bedding system.

Maverick

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I cant believe you were trying to side sleep on a TP Pro Adapt Firm because that is the firmest they make!

I think TP Luxe Adapt Medium Hybrid would be great for you! Check out Luxe Adapt Firm and Soft also! I love the LAF and I am 235 pounds.

I just got the Back Science 2 and Im a back sleeper. I tried the BS 3 and that would be great for side sleepers because it is even more plush. BS2 is very plush too and a bit better for back sleeping. BackScience and TempFlow are the same company with the same showroom in Agoura Hills Calif.

John

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The lumbar/back support of the BackScience mattresses are insanely good. “Perfect spinal alignment while laying on a soft cloud”

John

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I’m still dropping weight for weight classes and will probably end 2025 around 210-215. Spouse also losing weight.

Definitely don’t want a mattress made for heavy heavy people so the titan seems iffy - is that really an option ?

Not married to TP style and don’t care about hot or cold as we have a dock pro which I failed to mention. We once had a latex cover and we weren’t a fan but I don’t know if that’s the same thing you suggested, maverick.

When I got the pro adapt I was SHW at 290 so it was great. Now it hurts.

Lastly we have two twin xl TP adjustable bases, which we bought on clearance - not interested in a split setup though - but we do have what I assume is a good foundation. I don’t see any evidence of sagging etc

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Don’t misunderstand what a mattress made for heavier individuals really means. While everyone has their own preferences when it comes to comfort, firmness, and support, the key factor in mattresses designed for people over 200lbs is the spring support layer. As body weight increases, a more robust support system becomes crucial. It doesn’t necessarily mean that a thicker gauge coil like the 13.5-gauge will be the best, although it just depends on how that particular spring coil was made. There are other factors like coil height, diameter, number of turns, and the hardness of the metal that contribute to the overall support. In the case of brands like 3Z, their 13.5-gauge coils are specifically designed to provide better support for people over 200lbs.

The Titan Elite or Nolah Evo Comfort+ are also designed with comfort layers that cater to side sleepers, which may be worth considering if that’s your sleeping style. But the point here isn’t that you have to go in this direction; rather, I don’t want you to misinterpret the “plus-size” label. It’s not just about being heavy; it’s about the kind of support that’s best suited for a larger body frame.

For example, I own two Alienware laptops, and I’m not a gamer. But the components in Alienware laptops are simply higher quality compared to standard Dell models and even their XPS line, it may seem over kill for someone who doesnt need the power of a gaming computer, but the components seem to last considerably longer, and I found them to be more suitable for my needs. Just because something is labeled for a specific group doesn’t mean it’s only appropriate for that group. My wife, who is 5’4" and 135lbs and mostly a side sleeper, states our Plank Luxe is the most comfortable bed she’s ever slept on—showing that comfort can vary based on personal preference, not just size.

Just as John mentioned, the TP Pro Adapt Firm, is one of the Firmest mattresses TP makes. To a 150lb person, that mattress will seem considerable firmer than to a 290lb person, but it doesnt necessarily make a mattress for “plus” sized folks. It makes it a mattress for people who like a firm mattress, regardless of what size category you want to place them in.

I was over 250lbs when I got the Plank Luxe, it was great then. I am 220 now, and guess what, it is just as great now. It is truly about what your personal preferences are not what category the mattress is placed in.

All the best on your search.

Maverick

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Yep I get it - to be clear I don’t care about the label in any defensive way. I care to the extent the label is meaningfully indicative of performance and function. Just looking to not wake up with hip and shoulder pain haha

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Yes, so for example, the Titan Plus Elite, has a luxurious, cushion, feel, particularly for side sleepers, and because it uses a microcoil layer in the comfort layer in place of what they would normally put either memory foam or some other type of foam, you would sleep cooler and get a nice amount of pressure relief and contouring and not likely experience any shoulder or hip pain.

But this could be said about any mattress that is similarly constructed, or constructed with the same principle. Vibrant support and cushy comfort layer.
I am not steering you toward the Titan Plus Elite, per se, just pointing out that you would feel great sleeping on it, despite its label. The nolah will have a similar experience.

The backscience 2 or 3, DLX premier hybrid in medium, a latex mattress with a firm support core and a medium comfort layer.

The last thing you want to happen is to have a nice cushy comfort layer, with not enough support for a 200lb person, and start hammocking your back, or throwing off your alignment.

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I think that both Maverick and John had some great things to contribute and covered quite a bit, but let me also add some info that might be helpful as a Doctor of Chiropractic and mattress designer for the last 20 plus years. First, It sounds like you’re looking for a mattress that can provide really good pressure relief for side sleeping, while also supporting your weight and keeping your spines in good alignment – especially after those fusions.

Based on what you’ve described, I think either of the two mattresses I helped develop called the Tempflow and Back Science bed could be a great fit. Tempflow uses that classic 5lb. high-density memory foam that Tempur-Pedic was known for, so it’ll really contour to your bodies and cushion those pressure points like hips and shoulders. That’s super important for side sleepers. Plus, with a 40-year warranty, you can be confident it’ll last much longer than the 5 years you got out of your old Tempur-Pedic.

Back Science is a hybrid, and I know you mentioned some bad experiences with those in the past and that it may have been weight related, but either way, Back Science uses really high-quality materials, and the combination of supportive, yet comfortable over 1000 count pocketed individually wrapped coils and pressure-relieving Hypergel foam that reduced pressure points, while working with our patented pending Lumbar-Flex zoned support, which basically means that it will prevent any hammocking of the mid-section and give you spine the necessary support needed to maintain a proper alignment.
One amazing benefit with Back Science is that you can actually customize it, should it not suit your needs perfectly. If you get it and decide it’s not quite right, you can swap out the comfort or support layers until you find what works perfectly for both of you. That’s a huge advantage, especially since you may both have different needs.

The best mattress for your needs would be the Back Science Series 3. The zoned support and customizable layers seem like they’d be a great fit for your specific needs, and the hybrid design will give you that balance of comfort and support. But if you really love that classic memory foam feel and want the extra-long warranty, Tempflow is definitely worth considering too and in which case, you may want to go with the Tempflow Elite Conforma medium.

The best thing to do is check out both brands online and keep in mind that they both have amazing trial periods, so you won’t have to worry about getting stuck with a mattress that does not properly suit your needs.

I hope that helps explain things, but feel free to write back if you have any questions, You can reach me back at this forum or email us direct. Also, if you do purchase a Back Science mattress, be sure to use the 10% off TMU10 discount code we give to The Mattress Underground members.

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