Here are My Thoughts … Now 56 Days Out From Delivery
First let me again give a shout out to Mattresses247. These folks have been great to work with (see post above)
I have waited to give this update until I got some kind of resolution on the perceived “issues” I was having with the bed. Mattreses247 is willing to do whatever will keep me happy … But i need some feed back before i proceed.
So lets talk seams … Regardless of what you read or are told by a salesman, especially if you are a “Princess and the Pea” type personality (and admittedly I am) … You WILL FEEL A GLUED SEAM in the comfort layer of a cal king bed.
If you purchase a cal king (and i would guess a king too) and it is not split into 2 parts at each layer … In other words the comfort layer is 1 continuous piece … If purchased from Mattressses247 There will be a glue seam off center of the bed. I was told talalay latex is not manufactured in a cal king width so it has to be glue seam constructed. If i recall my discussion with Mattresses247 correctly, they take 2 extra long/large twins and cut off enough from one of them to make the width a cal king. Then using the pieces cut off, they use those pieces to add the 4" of extra length to make a cal king … Gluing all the pieces together. So u will have 2 seams. One offset/ off center down the middle and One 4 inches off the bottom or top depending on your rotation.
I have no idea if this is true, but it has been my experience. The way Mattresses247 explained it to me, when they glue a seam, the glue used will seep in about 2 inches or so either side of the seam and that this is part of the bonding of seam for talalay latex. I did do tests of just the 3" soft glued comfort layer laid out in my living room floor. Taking an 8 pound dumb bell, a 4 foot level and measuring tape, when I placed the dumbbell where we each sleep … The dumbbell sunk in exactly 1/2 of an inch more where our bodies lay than it did on the seam. AND this was consistent from top to bottom along the seam so it does not appear to be just brake in. The seam IS MORE FIRM…!!! There will be a 4-5" patch down the off center of the bed that is (for me) noticeably more firm. It gives me the sensation of laying on a small hump in the off center middle of the bed.
I do not think this is a fault of mattresses247 … Just the nature of seamed latex … But i could be wrong.
Here is where I need help and suggestions. I am visibly seeing body impressions where we lay when the bed is assembled… These are not getting any worse over the past 20 days and noticed them in the first week we had the bed. But I CANNOT visibly see the body impressions when the comfort layer is laid out in the floor by itself. Yet the seam is verifiably more firm when laid on the floor. Oddly all the other pieces are level and consistent by themselves. I have tried various rotations with the comfort layer … And the “Rise” is the seam. It switches sides of the bed when i rotate (the seam is off center)
Here’s the problem … when i lay across the bed at a 45* angle, with part of me on one side and sinking in … and the lower part of my legs on the other side not sinking in as much, the seam intersects my legs just between my hips and my knees when laying on my side … And everything from the knees down kinda floats just above the layer not sinking in because of the firmness of the seam. When laying on my side … This causes knee pain.
I had no idea the seam would be that detectable.
So long story short, do u think a plush 2" 15 ILD topper layer would solve the seam sensation (i am assuming a cal king topper will also have an off-center seam) . But if i situate the seams of the comfort layer and new 2" topper so that they oppose each other (not in the same place) will the sensation of the seam effectively “Disappear” ???
Obviously if I opt to have Mattresses247 send me a replacement with no seam, but rather 2 replaced comfort layers unglued down the middle … This would solve the problem as there would be no glued seam.
BUT what does it cost to ship such a replacement to me as I would be paying shipping? I would guess my cost would be the same or similar back to Arizona from Florida. Shipping both ways may actually be close to the cost of a 2" plush topper … If that would solve the problem.
So what do you think?
Other wise … Love the bed. A little more firm than i would like if I rotate the core medium side down on the bottom, firm side in the middle and comfort layer on top. And too soft of a core if i set it up from bottom to top firm, medium, soft. That is why I am thinking 2" plush 15 ILD topper. Might cause the seam in the soft comfort layer to disappear and give me the upper softness with out the core being to soft in a bottom to top Medium, Firm, Soft mattress configuration.
Quick … Give me your thoughts. I need to make a decision soon on which way to proceed …
- Either Replace the seamed soft 19 ILD comfort layer with 2 unseamed pieces… And pay shipping both coming of the new and returning my old
Or
- Purchase a 2" 15 ILD seamed topper and keep my existing soft comfort layer saving shipping cost sending it back . I can get the topper for around $225.
What makes most sense.???