Need some guidance

Hello,

My wife and I just spent the day trying out mattress around town. We talked with a buch of sales reps and felt like we had gained some knowledge.

Once we got home I started doing some more research and stumbled across this amazing website/forum!! Ive spent the last couple hours reading articles and post, trying to find an answer to a question. Haven’t had any luck.

So, we found through our testing that we really liked the Temper-pedic LuxeAdapt Firm mattress. So, now I (wife is mad at me) am trying to find an alternative because the price tag does not seem reasonable for the Temper-pedic. I have no problem paying for it, it just seems like there could be a better option out there that is also priced better.

We currently sleep on a Serta I-Comfort that is about 12 years old. Its always been a soft mattress but has only recently started to cause issues with our sleep.

So, since Temper-pedic does not disclose how they make their mattress, how does someone go about finding an alternative?

We like the memeory foam, and at least think that a firm mattress would be beneficial. After reading though this site, i think a firm base with a soft top may be what we are looking for? Nether of us liked any of the mattress that had a plush topper on it, preferred the flat top. We are also about as different in body shape as two people could possibly be.

Ive been looking at the Ghost Bed as an alternative, possibly the Venus legend, as an alternative but have no way to test it out.

I am 6’3" 240lbs with a long torso, and wide hips for a man. My wife is 5’2" about 180lbs and more proportionate.

Any help would be much appreciated!!

I am about to buy the Tempurpedic Luxe Adapt Firm myself. There is a Luxe Adapt Firm 2.0 (Blue) that I have not tried. There is also a Luxe Adapt Medium Hybrid that I havent tried either.

You will not be able to replicate Tempurpedic in any way. I would just pay for it and enjoy it. Tempurpedic makes the best memory foam period. Good sleep is a great investment.

What is expensive? A cheap mattress where you cant sleep and wake up with a sore back and neck every morning. That is really expensive.

Buy the Tempurpedic.

John

Your wife is right. Buy the Tempurpedic.

John

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Hey there Deltaxdog,

Welcome to the MattressUnderGround. We are happy to have you as a new MUGster (subscriber) to our community and thank you for your question.

While TP may excel in their class of MF mattresses and sell a substantial quantity, returns and exchanges at most places can prove to be quite costly.

Tempurpedic, is like many other “marketing” brand’s materials, like those who incorporate elements such as gels and grids. TP is likely the best in its class. It boasts unique characteristics and a specific feel that may either appeal to you or not.

I have a dozen of their pillows, which I write and speak highly of them quite often, but their mattresses have found to be uncomfortable, sinking, hot, like being swallowed by quick sand.

Every time we have looked for a new mattress, we have given a TP, but never they never make it into any final potential choice, no matter how they have changed the formula they use in their foam.

Starts off firm (which is great), then you sink and get trapped if not cooked.

It is one of the best-selling mattresses, so people are buying them and are either loving them or dealing with them as returning or exchanging one can sometimes prove costly.

It would seem as a couple with dissimilar body profiles you may need individualized comfort.

If you really love memory foam then you may want to look at the tempflow line of mattresses as they are one as seen here that directly competes with Tempurpedic. They are not a budget version, quite the opposite, a high quality version with designs that employ advanced air channeling and foster more airflow and and an attempt to allow you to sleep less hot. Plus offer split comfort designs as part of their options. Just as tempurpedic uses over 5lb+ memory foam, tempflow is built with MF that falls into that same range.

Of course there are other options, for example @DLX just introducted their MemoryMax Hybrid. A very high quality engineered mattress combining memory foam and HD foam into their comfort section of the mattress for folks who love the feel of memory foam, but want the added strength of durability, support and longevity. @EngineeredSleep is another that comes to mind that offers a memory foam hybrid in their Duo Memory foam mattress.

Despite advertising and marketing claims, there are viable alternatives available. While TP may assert that their mattresses cannot be replicated due to their secret formulas, the same argument could potentially apply to nearly any other mattress, even those that disclose their exact specifications.

You could search online for 5lb viscoelastic memory foam and find variations from super soft to extremely firm. This shows how descriptions alone can’t guarantee an exact duplication of any foam layer.

When it comes to affordability versus costliness, @BillyIdol underscores a crucial point. Similar to comfort, the price tag and its alignment with an individual’s budgetary perspective are purely a “selective valuation,” requiring the evaluator themselves to determine.

While Tempurpedic mattresses have their strengths, including unique materials and brand recognition, many users find issues with sinking and heat retention. Exploring alternatives such as Tempflow for improved airflow and customizable comfort, or other brands offering memory foam hybrids, may provide better options tailored to individual preferences and budget considerations.

Hopefully this helps bring an additional perspective for you to move forward in your search and bring your wife back to your side of the financial aspect of the conversation :money_mouth_face:

Best of luck,

Maverick

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To further expand on the density point that Maverick talks about, it is that 5lb. density that became the gold standard for what Tempur-Pedic created so many years ago, though they have strayed from the original formula on many of their new models and virtually all of their competitors other than Tempflow now use much lower densities with their memory foam.

So, if you like that feel and you want the product to last, than their aren’t really any alternatives to purchasing something like a Tempflow or Tempur-Pedic. Tempflow may save you some on cost and the warranty is 4 times longer, since most of the Tempflow models do continue to use the same original 5lb. density formula that was used from its inception nearly 20-years ago.

With that said, when I worked on creating Back Science, I was going for the concept of a hybrid mattress that had the same type of conforming comfort of Tempflow/Tempur-pedic, but with gel foam comfort surface that offered more buoyancy for those that wanted an alternative to the slower reactive high density memory foam.

Specifically, it is designed to keep your spine in the most proper alignment thanks to that buoyancy, as well as a patent pending interlocking lumbar center zone that keeps the mid-section of the mattress from sinking downward. Also, unlike virtually any other mattress on the market, Back Science has a specifically designed GripLock Modular cover system that allows modifications, should you not like the feel after sleeping on the mattress, at no cost whatsoever for the first year of ownership and that includes switching the Gel foam to a memory foam if that is what you desire after testing it.

The Back Science Series 2 would be the model that would fit with your needs and while it is not a cheap mattress, it will save money over the Tempur-Pedic LuxAdapt, as well as being a risk-free alternative. Hopefully, the information helps and feel free to let me know if you have any other questions and I would be happy to assist in any way possible.

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Thanks to all that replied!!

@BillyIdol brings up a great point, and one that I mentioned to one of the sales reps we talked too. You really cant put a price on great sleep. I think my hesitation is more from a value and trust position. Anymore I just can’t bring myself to trust that these older, major corporations have any interest in providing real value in their products. I would rather take a chance with one of the smaller companies that are part of this forum, even if the price tag is the same, or more. My wife doesn’t see things this way, she gets roped into the physiological marketing that these major corporations have prefected.

@Maverick really appreciate the advice! We had not heard of TempFlow before, so are now considering that option. Neither of us seem to like the latex style beds, but these were sealy and Ashley brand, so maybe not the best examples.

@BackScience your mattresses look like something I would like. Its going to take some convincing to get the wife on board though. We did some more investigating today, visiting some showrooms, and found that we really need something that is firm. Its been so long since I was able to lay on my stomach in bed that I had forgotten how much I used to do it. So, that is something that i would be looking for in our new mattress.

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Del,

A mattresss salesperson asked me, “Would you pay $1 a day for great sleep? For 10 years, that would be $3650. At $2 a day, that would be $7300” It really makes sense. The problem is that the cost of a mattress is front loaded. Honestly, I would pay $10 a day or more!!!

Unless you are contemplating a Hastens Gran Vividus at $500,000, it doesnt make much sense to fret over an extra $2000-3000. If I dont have the money, I get a loan or I simply work more. Id rather drive a used car with a great mattress than a new car and a $300 junky mattress that makes make back and neck hurt. The $300 junky mattress is simply too expensive because it destroys my productivity and enjoyment of life.

John

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I haven’t seen much feedback on this because it is a new model, but the Saatva Contour5 may be an option. It’s an upgraded version of their Loom & Leaf with 5 pound memory foam. The design looks solid. And a lot of people liked the L&L.

I’m not a big fan of the marketing practices of the company, but I could say the same of Tempurpedic. For all their faults, a 365 day sleep trial (with $99 return fee) is generous. And that would allay some concern over it being an untested new product.

Personally I don’t like memory foam at all, so this wouldn’t work for me. But if you do like the feel, the price is much more reasonable than a Tempurpedic.

I am glad you are both opening yourself up to other options either way. If you would like to have a conversation where I can further assist you, feel free to call our 800 667-1969 number and if I can’t get on a call right away, I will get back to you and help go over some more options.

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