Overwhelmed & tired absorbing all, but question that's timely.

Hi, I’ve been researching and just found your site… I literally can’t contain anymore information at this point and I know you say not to shop sales but budget is important right now… I am heavier set and generally like medium mattresses… But I need the support and do spend a lot of time in bed watching tv and doing work. In my search I came across the below bed on Overstock.com. They say they stand behind it and give a 10 year warranty.

I’m posting the link here and I posted the details/ material below… Your input would be greatly appreciated.

Select Luxury Medium Firm 14-inch Cal King-size Memory Foam Mattress

Details:

Materials: Memory foam, soft transition foam, polyurethane foamDensity: 3 pounds per cubic footComposition: One layer of 2-inch open-cell memory foam, second layer of 1.75-inch comfort Layer of Gel foam on a 10-inch foam baseDimensions: 14 inches high x 72 inches wide x 84 inches long

Thank you for your time.,

Hi Beachin,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! I like the dancing cat. :stuck_out_tongue:

There’s nothing wrong with buying something when it is truly “on sale”, but the important thing is to note the difference between “on sale” and “for sale”. The problem is that most mattress “sales” are really marketing gimmicks where the “regular price” is manipulated in order to make the advertised “discount” look more substantial. This video explains how most mattress “sales” really work. Honest retailers rarely offer large discounts, as they promote pricing that is competitive on a daily basis, so their sales events tend to be smaller percentage discounts. And remember, a low price on a low-quality item isn’t a deal. It just means you’re paying less for something that is still an inappropriate product. English author John Ruskin once said, “When you pay too much, you lose a little money – that is all. But when you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do.”

A warranty in and of itself has absolutely no relationship to the useful comfort life of a mattress, so that would be one of the less important things to consider when purchasing a mattress. The more important thing is knowing the quality of materials within the mattress. It appears that this item requires a payment of $50.99 to get a warranty on the mattress.

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I’m posting the link here and I posted the details/ material below… Your input would be greatly appreciated.
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I would need to know the density of the 10" polyfoam base layer and the density of the 1.75" polyfoam transition layer as well to be able to make any meaningful comments about it in terms of the quality and durability of the materials in the mattress. We already know that the top 2" or memory foam is only 3 lb. in density which is a lower quality memory foam, which would already put this in a category of items I would recommend that people avoid, even more so if you’re in a higher BMI range.

The Overstock customer service reps also aren’t very knowledgeable about “matching” their mattresses to different body types and sleeping styles or about the type and quality of the materials in their mattresses so it may be difficult to get accurate information from them. They are generally the type of business that will sell you anything that they can convince you to buy. They also don’t have any exchange or return options on their mattresses so if the choice you make doesn’t turn out to be as suitable for you to sleep on as you hoped for in terms of comfort, firmness, or PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences) you won’t be able to exchange or return the mattress. The options you have after a purchase to exchange or return a mattress (or in some cases the individual layers of a mattress) can be an important part of the “value” of an online purchase.

You said that you’ve been doing a lot of reading, so I’m assuming that you’ve read the mattress shopping tutorial here but two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure you’ve read are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best “match” for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, and PPP that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the “value” of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after a purchase if your choice doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for).

When you can’t test a mattress in person then the most reliable source of guidance is always a more detailed phone conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart and who can help “talk you through” the specifics of their mattresses and the properties and “feel” of the materials they are using (fast or slow response, resilience, firmness etc.) and the options they have available that may be the best “match” for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked or other mattresses you are considering that they are familiar with, and the “averages” of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about “matching” their specific mattress designs and firmness levels to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences (or to other mattresses that they are familiar with) than anyone else.

Their detailed knowledge of their mattresses and how they fit with different body types and sleeping positions along with your feedback from local testing, a customer base of many people that they can use as reference points, and any exchange, return, or any options they have available to customize a mattress after a purchase can help lower the risk of an online purchase. These online retailers or manufacturers can also be a good “value reference” for local purchases to make sure that if you are paying a “premium” for a local purchase (in exchange for the kind of “in person” guidance, service, and value that comes with dealing with a local retailer that can help you make more “accurate” choices that you have tested in person) is not too high.

If you’re looking online (and it sounds like you are), use the experience and expertise of the members listed in post #21 here who are all very experienced and knowledgeable and specialize in providing the type of help and guidance on the phone that can help you make good choices. There are a wide range of latex and memory foam and other options included in the choices there and I believe that all of them compete well with the best in the industry in terms of their quality, value, service, and transparency.

I know that you’re working with a tight budget, so for those that have a more restricted budget then post #4 here and the posts it links to include many of the better lower budget online options I’m aware of as well.

I hope that information is helpful to you.

Phoenix

I’m still shopping. I have narrowed it down to these… Perfect Cloud Elegance Gel-Pro 12 Inch Memory Foam Mattress. I need to call Amazon about this. This is their mattress and they stand behind their 25 year warranty. That doesn’t tell me anything about what is in the mattress but I think it’s worth a phone call. CAL KING is $699.00.

This one is 2nd., I have a call in to Dreamfoan to discuss the different ones here. Dreamfoam Bedding California King Copper Gel Memory Foam Mattress

Brentwood Home Bamboo Mattress, Gel Memory Foam, 13-Inch, Cal King this is $749.00 on Amazon but they have it on their site with a 10% discount…

Brentwood Home Bamboo Mattress, Gel Memory Foam, 11-Inch, Cal King This is a killer price so I want to talk to them really soon.

DreamFoam 13" Copper Gel Memory Foam Mattress, same thing, really a bargain on one site… I went to Dreamfoams site and it says this about this mattress, 13″ Profile
Excellent pressure relief and support
3" of 4 LB Gel Memory Foam & 2" of 5LB Memory foam
Gel technology sleeps 33% cooler
Molds to the shape of your body for proper spinal alignmen

Brooklyn Bedding 11’’ Plush Gel Memory Foam Mattress, same thing, killer price.

You might find this youtube interesting, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXAHpX2xDhmjqtA-ANgsGmw?v=mk8IozfXStU

UPDATE: I made a decision and ordered it. It was the last one and in Cal King for only $499.00 priced on Amazon at $799.00 I ordered the DreamFoam 13" Copper Gel Memory Foam Mattress, same thing as on their site, ULTIMATE DREAMS 13″ GEL MEMORY FOAM MATTRESS.

Wish me luck!

Hi Beachin,

(I won’t comment upon the mattresses you listed, as you’ve already made a purchase.)

Congratulations on your new mattress! :cheer: You’ve certainly made an excellent quality/value choice, and as you know Dreamfoam Bedding is a member of this site, which means I think highly of them. I’ll look forward to your comments after you’ve had some time to try out your mattress for a while.

Videos like this are a really good example of what not to look at when shopping for a mattress. They provide no objective or meaningful information, like the information listed here or any durability guidelines, and most of the time their “expert recommendations” are based upon paid advertising or an averaging of reviews from particular sites, which is the least reliable way to select a mattress. They did manage to include the Dreamfoam mattress in their list, but many of the other options are very low quality products.

Good luck with your new mattress!

Phoenix

Thank Phoenix… The only thing I got from the video was another positive for Dreamfoam. But I had to search between that sight and the Brooklyn site to get the specs on the bed I bought… It turns out they both make it.

I will follow up after my 1st impressions and then 30, and probably 90-120 days after…

Again, thanks for your help.

Wait, what does I won’t comment on it mean… Please do. I would like your opinion.

Hi Beachin,

I didn’t mean to be unclear with my statement – sorry about that! What I meant was that you’ve already made a decision and purchased a bed, so unnecessarily consolidating the information about the other products you were formerly considering isn’t something for me to pursue.

If you desire to perform a search after the fact, I’ve written previously regarding all of those models and you can certainly perform a search using that function on the web site and it will bring up that information for you, although I’m guessing you already did that before you made your decision as one of the steps outlined in the Mattress Shopping Tutorial I linked to for you in my earlier reply in this thread.

Enjoy your new mattress!

Phoenix