Questions re Charles H Beckley and Midwest Double Sided Innerspring Mattress Options

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Hello!
I am working on replacing my king size mattress and have some questions about Charles H. Beckley mattresses and flippable innerspring mattress manufacturers in Missouri / Midwest.

I would like to replace my current mattress (6 yr old Nolah memory foam mattress; sagging/deep body impressions) with a flippable, innerspring mattress plus a plush topper.

My husband is a side sleeper (6’, 180#) and I (5’7”, 160#) am usually a stomach sleeper but 7mos pregnant and side sleeping for now. My husband is sleeping fine on our current mattress; I haven’t slept well on it for years due to the sagging/lack of support. We’re in the Kansas City, Missouri area.

We tried several options in-store at Nebraska Furniture Mart and liked the Aireloom Luxetop Plush best—we both really like that plush body contouring supported feeling. I prefer the feel of a plush down pillow top over the contouring of a gel or latex.

After researching Aireloom mattresses on this forum, we decided to steer clear of that brand, and try to find a supportive, double sided innerspring mattress that could be layered with a plush topper, to get the same feel but better quality components and hopefully better durability.

I happened to be in NYC near the Charles H Beckley showroom and stopped in to try their mattresses. I liked both the Bristol Medium and Stafford, both with a goose down topper. I really liked the craftsmanship and feel of natural materials instead of foam (or even latex).

I had a few questions on the CHB mattresses that I didn’t see addressed in any other forums:

(1) are these mattresses really as durable as they are represented to be (if cared for properly)?

(2) my understanding is that the Stafford uses pocket coils to minimize weight transfer disturbance—curious if anyone with a Bristol mattress could speak to whether this is a problem with the Bristol? If two people are sleeping on a king Bristol, do you both roll to the middle or is it very noticeable when your sleep partner gets out of bed?

(3) do you advise getting a box spring from the same manufacturer as the mattress manufacturer? Based on my reading, I think the answer is yes, but it would help to get some advice on that (vs buying a separate box spring locally)

Separately, I have reviewed the forum for local Missouri manufacturers who still make double sided innerspring mattresses—I haven’t been able to find any, and wanted to check that conclusion. I believe Croft (formerly Joplimo) used to custom build mattresses like this, but its web site doesn’t reference custom builds, and all of their regular stock includes foam.

Are there any Missouri or Midwest mattress manufacturers with a similar product to Charles H Beckley (rather than shipping the mattress et al halfway across the country)?

Thanks for your help!!

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I wouldnt “steer clear” of Aireloom Luxetop Plush. I have found Aireloom Luxetop M1 and M2 in firm and plush to be amongst the finest innerspring mattresses made. I have not tried CH Beckley, but I highly doubt they are better than Aireloom.

Aireloom has a phenomenal feel. The feel is incredible and impossible to reproduce. The “Aireloom Lift” is real where they compress 36 inched the materials in 14 inches.

I tried Aireloom Preferred Luxetop M1 Firm along side 37k ViSpring mattresses and felt Aireloom was superior. Go figure. Walk away from Aireloom if you want, but I think you are walking away from a bucket of gold.

John

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Also, dont fall into the belief that you can replicate the Aireloom feel. You cant.

John

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Yes, Charles H. Beckley Mattresses are the real deal!

Their mattresses are known for being high-quality, with a focus on natural materials like cotton and wool. Many poster’s report that their mattresses last a lot of years when properly cared for. The fact that you are interested in natural components rather than foam or latex, these mattresses are just what the mattress doctor ordered.

Their construction tends to be more durable due to the higher quality of materials and the double-sided innerspring design, which helps with wear over time. Just make sure you follow the care guidelines they suggest, such as rotating one a week for the first month and flipping the mattress every few months. Natural mattresses like theirs will appear to have body impressions, which is very normal. It is not a bad sign, it is simply how wool, cotton, horsehair and natural fibers compress.

I am not quite certain of all of the exact coil configuration used on these two specific mattresses although I will accept the information you received while visiting their show room.

Regarding the Bristol Medium, as you mentioned, while it doesn’t have pocket coils like the Stafford, it should still provides a good amount of support. The lack of pocketed coils can mean more noticeable motion transfer compared to a mattress with pocket springs. If you’re particularly sensitive to movement from your sleep partner, you might find it noticeable when they get up or move around. However, the overall firmness and structure of the Bristol Medium might still help mitigate some of this, but the Stafford’s pocket coils will do a better job of isolating motion.

It’s generally a good idea to buy a box spring from the same manufacturer, particularly with this type of old world craftsmanship mattress to ensure compatibility and to maintain the mattress warranty.

CHB manufactures their own box spring and is designed to support the specific mattress construction, giving you the best long-term durability and comfort. You are talking decades here, not just years. While you could technically purchase a separate box spring locally, getting one designed specifically for the build and design of your mattress ensures you’re optimizing the mattress’s performance.

While you may not find CHB mattresses in the mid west, you may want to entertain looking at a Shifman at Macy’s. Shifman’s are made with the same level of craftsmanship as CHB. Some are made with no foams at all while others offer latex, and high density foams. I would contact Shifman should you find one at Macy’s or Bloomingdales that you like as many department stores, even the luxury ones, tend to request the mattresses be made with perimeter foam encasement, which I believe will effect the edge support long term. They may be able to direct you on how to buy one locally or made with edge to edge coils rather than a foam encased edge support. Here is a video that speaks about edge support..

Regarding Aireloom/Kluft. They are famous for their mattresses, presidents and dignitaries sleep on them. I am finding more and more folks are experiencing disappointment, both here in this forum and on reddit. It may be representative of only the bad experiences, or a diminishing level of quality as compared to what folks had experienced in the past, much like a lot of the legacy brands on the market.

Although there are many fantastic independent manufacturers scattered throughout the country, when you come across something exceptional that fits your budget and meets your performance expectations, it might be worth simply going for it.

At the end of the day, the delivery of a large item like this, is not much different than any other large item, like a couch or large dining room table. You are likely going to be sleeping on this for quite the long time, so it simply may be worth the ride as long as it is within your budget.

All the best,

Maverick

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Good points Maverick!

I have been told that most of the bad Aireloom reviews are the ones bought from Macys. Dont buy Aireloom from Macys because they have used cheaper materials to hit a price point.

Only buy from a boutique indepedent Aireloom dealer. They use the original names like “Aireloom Luxetop M1 Plush”.

I hope this helps.

John

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Beckley is far superior to an Aireloom you cant compare a handcrafted mattress to a mass produced one.

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I almost stopped into Beckley yesterday, did you find them to be extremely firm with no give? That’s what I have heard.

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H22,

Well….Vi Spring at $37,000 is suppose to be superior to Aireloom Preferred M1 Firm. I suppose Vi Spring is superior as far as “expensive materials”, but I judge a mattress based on how if feels as a user. Posture and pressure relief.

I felt that Aireloom > Vi Spring even though Aireloom was $6000 and Vi was $37,000.

John

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Actually, Vi Spring is hand crafted and so is Aireloom M1 Firm.

I feel Vi Spring was way overpriced for what you get. Im not sure if CH Beckley is better or worse than Vi.

John

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I checked out the CH Beckley website. They do use “natural hair” that looks like horse hair. Reminds me a lot of Hastens and Vi Spring.

I did try a Kingdown mattress that had horse hair in it. It was ok.

You start to realize that prestige buzzwords like “hand made”, “made in Sweden”, “British made”, “yak hair”, “Used at the Savoy hotel” really have no positive or negative qualities when it comes to how a mattress feels and its support. Mattress testing trumps all.

John

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I didn’t even read the Savoy hotel or the nonsense buzzwords, but do you.

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Vispring you can buy in a retail store, a CB you buy direct. I thought the 30k Vispring I have tried was glorious though lol

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Ive read those buzz words before, but not with CM Beckley. Do you have a Beckley mattress yet?

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I saw the Shifmans at Bloomingdales, the prices are eye watering and they are like bricks just by touch…

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If the Shifmans are brick like, the CB mattress might be the same. Maybe you can make your way over to the Bronx to try CB. Im in Los Angeles.

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CB showroom is in NYC

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Website said Bronx, NY

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Factory in Bronx
Showroom in NYC

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That’s Correct as I had stated, showroom in NYC

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Well….if you cruise over there let me know how it is.

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