Searching for a new mattress for over 6 months

I have had a lot of mattresses that never seem to work out. The last one I bought was a Serta Boca Breeze (2 inch of gel memory and 6 poly). Our first foam mattress. It was ridiculously firm and took a while to get used to but it helped shoulder and neck pain tremendously. Im a stomach side sleeper and hubby is all three. Its been 3 years and the mattress is now garbage. You sit down and you sink all the way to the box springs … needless to say I am afraid to try another memory foam, but they seemed to have come a long way. I need a good solid firm mattress that will give us at least 5 years at this point. I have been looking at the hybrids: Winkbed, Saatva and Luma ( I like the idea of latex). I did try Jamestown mattress to configure my own, but the guy at the store kept yelling at me that if I started to customize my own mattress then I would be sorry. I have also looked at the beauty silver firm mattress (Danika, lydia, I’m sure they are the same) which felt great but I keep reading that just innerspring mattresses are not cutting it anymore.

So right now I’m in the Paralysis by Analysis stage and desperately need to buy a new mattress but just cannot make the plunge. I read the reviews and product specs(which ends up confusing me more). So knowing that in the beginning we liked the (apparently cheap) mattress can you recommend our next based on what I have been looking at? Or even whatI haven’t (another memory foam?)

Thank you in advance for any help you can provide!!!

Hi Mary.S,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :slight_smile:

I’m sorry your Serta mattress didn’t work out well for you, but Serta, like many of the larger brands, tends to use lower quality and less durable foams in their mattresses (see below), so it’s not a surprise that your mattress is already not performing well.

Actually, it tends to be the opposite, with more brands choosing to go with lower density memory foams, which are less durable, which is why it is so important that as a consumer you become educated about the componentry within a mattress and eschew any product that uses lower quality materials, or products where you can’t find out the information of what is inside.

I wouldn’t focus much on the marketing terminology of terms like “hybrid”, which has become so watered-down to be almost meaningless. If you like the idea/feel of using an innerspring unit for the support core, there’s certainly nothing wrong with that. And latex is a very durable and resilient material and is a good choice as far as quality is concerned.

While I wasn’t there during your visit, I doubt that the salesman actually “yelled” at you, but was more than likely providing advice to not attempt to configure your own product, which would be sage advice. Unless you are extremely experienced with mattress construction and design (which would be very few people), your best starting point in a configurable mattress system would be layerings that have already been designed and tested by a knowledgeable retailer or manufacturer (and I do think highly of the advice that Jamestown provides). You could always fine tune from there after you’ve had the product in your home and acquired a point of reference, should you desire.

I’m guessing you meant Beautyrest here, which is a brand I would recommend avoiding (see below). When testing out a mattress in a showroom, you can’t feel quality or durability, which can only be determined through knowledge of what is inside of the mattress.

I don’t know where you are reading that but it’s an inaccurate statement, as most mattresses sold are still innerspring in their support unit and many people still have a preference for this type of design. The key is to find a product using quality componentry, which I’ll explain how to do below.

Overall, I’d suggest that you press the "reset’ button on how you’re shopping for a mattress. And while I can certainly help with “how” to choose … It’s not possible to make specific suggestions or recommendations for either a mattress, manufacturers/retailers, or combinations of materials or components because the first “rule” of mattress shopping is to always remember that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved that are unique to each person to use a formula or for anyone to be able to predict or make a specific suggestion or recommendation about which mattress or combination of materials and components or which type of mattress would be the best “match” for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, or PPP or how a mattress will “feel” to you or compare to another mattress based on specs (either yours or a mattress), sleeping positions, health conditions, or “theory at a distance” that can possibly be more reliable than your own careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in step 4 of the tutorial) or your own personal sleeping experience (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here).

I’m not sure what you’ve read since you found the site but just in case you haven’t read it yet … the first place to start your research is the mattress shopping tutorial here which includes all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help you make the best possible choice … and perhaps more importantly know how and why to avoid the worst ones.

Two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure you’ve read are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best “match” for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, and PPP that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the “value” of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after a purchase if your choice doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for).

While again nobody can speak to how any specific mattress will “feel” for someone else or whether it will be a good “match” in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP because this is too subjective and relative to different body types, sleeping positions, and individual preferences, sensitivities, and circumstances and you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress … outside of PPP (which is the most important part of “value”), the next most important part of the value of a mattress purchase is durability which is all about how long you will sleep well on a mattress. This is the part of your research that you can’t see or “feel” and assessing the durability and useful life of a mattress depends on knowing the specifics of its construction and the type and quality of the materials inside it regardless of the name of the manufacturer on the label or how a mattress feels in a showroom or when it is relatively new so I would always make sure that you find out the information listed here so you can compare the quality of the materials and components to the durability guidelines here to make sure there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to the durability and useful life of a mattress before making any purchase.

The major brands such as Sealy/Stearns & Foster, Simmons, and Serta all tend to use lower quality and less durable materials in their mattresses than most of their smaller competitors that will tend to soften or break down prematurely relative to the price you pay which is why I would generally suggest avoiding all of them completely (along with the major retailers that focus on them as well) regardless of how they may feel in a showroom along with any mattress where you aren’t able to find out the type and quality/durability of the materials inside it (see the guidelines here along with post #3 here and post #12 here and post #404 here).

Regarding reviews, I would tell you to ignore them. While other people’s comments about the knowledge and service of a particular business can certainly be very helpful … I would always keep in mind that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and I would be cautious about using anyone else’s suggestions, experiences or reviews on a specific mattress (either positive or negative) or review sites in general as a reliable source of information or guidance about how you will feel on the same mattress or how suitable or how durable a mattress may be for you. In many if not most cases they can be more misleading than helpful because a mattress that would be a perfect choice for one person or even a larger group of people in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP may be completely unsuitable for someone else to sleep on (even if they are in a similar weight range). In other words … reviews or other people’s experiences in general won’t tell you much if anything about the suitability, quality, durability, or “value” of a mattress for any particular person (see post #13 here).

While this is a bit of information to read through, if you follow the steps outlined in the mattress shopping tutorial you will be in a much better position to make a more educated choice for your next mattress, and know what to avoid.

I hope that’s helpful to you.

Phoenix

Thank you, I have actually read through this site quite a bit which is why I went to Jamestown to begin with.

Another poster on here talked about configuring his majestic dream mattress and I liked what he did but when I got to talking the guy (no he wasn’t actually yelling, exaggerating to express my disappointment in how he dealt with us) I just didn’t feel comfortable dealing with him. We had originally planned on just a plain old fashioned innerspring mattress from there but got sucked into all the hype. I did like the mattress so was trying to find something comparable online that’s where I got to the others I suggested. I haven’t been able to find out much more about luma. Can you advise?

I’ve read not to buy the 3s but decided since that is my only other option than buying online around here id add if itto my list. Good to know I should remove.

I have read through all the notes about how foams and the thickness and when to avoid them but a lot of retailers don’t disclose. I’m not sold on a hybrid but besides Jamestown I have no idea if that’s what I’d want.

I’ll hit reset and try again. I’ll look through more of your site to checklist. I have visited so many other sleep sites and not too many agree on anything expect who’s paying them. They all lambaste the others…

Hi Mary.S,

I wouldn’t put too much stock into how someone else has configured their mattress, as what may be appropriate for them will have no bearing as to what may be appropriate for you, as they are entirely too many individual preferences involved.

Luma Sleep is a member of this site which means that I think very highly of them and that I believe that they compete well with the best in the industry in terms of their quality, value, service, knowledge, and transparency. They are extremely knowledgeable about latex and different configurations. They offer mattresses using both innerspring (the “hybrid” style you’ve described) and all-latex mattresses, and they are available in different levels of softness. The different models are described in more detail in post #2 here. If you are curious about their products or have particular questions, I would strongly encourage a phone call directly with them, as that will be the best way to get complete, specific and detailed answers to your questions.

If you can’t find out the specifications of what is inside of a mattress, there’s no way for you to make an educated decision and that in my opinion would be a very risky purchase, and a choice that I would recommend to avoid.

Focus upon objective information about the componentry within a mattress and you’ll give yourself the best chance for success.

Phoenix

Thank you very much. Back to the drawing board, I appreciate the advice!

Hi Mary.S,

You’re welcome!

Phoenix