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I’ve referenced this site dozens of times in my search for a mattress. So helpful. Thank you.

I have a weird story that involves chronic illness (think fibromyalgia) and unusual sleeping arrangements, like a sofa from the 1800s. Before that was a decade of happiness with a pillow top — I’m a lightweight side sleeper.

A couple months ago, I sold everything I owned and moved into “affordable housing.” I figured I’d spend $300-400ish on a twin foam bed-in-a-box. I figured I was easy to please.

I bought a Spoon Sleep for $500, which they consider a 5.8 on the firmness scale, and it felt to me like an 8.5. It hurt. They sent me a topper, but it got damaged along the way, and I returned the mattress without trying it. (Fantastic company, BTW.)

I slept on my friend’s Tuft & Needle, and it felt a little softer but still far too firm for my tenderness.

I then decided I want a real softie. I went to a new Nest showroom and bought the Alexander Signature Hybrid for $715 (with tax), but a tiny mistake made the system think my order was fulfilled, and I didn’t catch it for 2 whole weeks. I requested a discount for my trouble and was offered a free set of sheets — the same offer available to everyone online — and expedited shipping. I asked for a refund.

I thought I had seen them all, then I discovered CRaVE, a new(ish) company started by Amanda Grigg, who has a 15-year background in her family’s mattress business. It’s the first woman-owned bed-in-a-box I’ve run across! Also unusual, they have Oeko-Tex Standard 100 certification and use partially soy-based foam. The Ultra Plush Hybrid Innerspring Mattress is said (by others) to be softer than the Alexander, and it’s unarguably cheaper — $600 minus any discount I can find. But it’s more innerspring than foam:

1.5" convoluted latex
1.5" memory foam
8" pocketed coils
1" polyfoam

My finger’s on the trigger, but I’m waiting on the full specs and wondering if I might be better off in the long-term with a $300ish foam mattress and a topper? I’d super appreciate thoughts or opinions because indecision has led to me to sleeping on a pile of neatly folded bedding, and it #%?&! sucks.

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I see your reference to getting in touch with Scott for discount coupon for SOL. How could I get one? So glad to see you find this a worthy vendor. Still thrashing thru medium vs. firm but it’s starts to sound like medium from both SOL and this forum.

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Hi moonunitann.

Welcome to our Mattress Forum! :slight_smile:

You’re correct … for the SOL code, you must email Scott (at) theMattressUnderground (dot) com.
I suggest you give SOL a call to help you with the final decision between medium and firm choices.
Aside from the fact that they are one of our Trusted Members that I think highly of ,they are much more familiar with their own mattress designs and materials than anyone else (including me) and they can use the information you provide them about your body type and sleeping positions, your preferences, your history on different mattresses, and the results of your local testing to make suggestions based on the “averages” of other customers that may be similar to you.

Best of luck with your purchase!
I hope you’ll find some time to update us and let us know how it works out for you.

Phoenix

@ ThatMegRyanMovie
I’ll be moving your posting to a more appropriate new topic and notify you when answered.

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Hi Phoenix,

I promised to come back to share my experience with the SOL Medium and it’s been about a week and I am enjoying it. It’s not too soft where I feel like I’m sinking into the mattress and as a side sleeper, I no longer waking up not being able to feel my arm underneath.

The only issue I have/had was with the shipping. SOL used FedEx Ground for the King mattress which was stuck at the FedEx facility when it arrived from Chicago to LA. After not seeing any updates in FedEx tracking for 2 days, I called them and was informed they would not delivery it with their truck due to the package being overweight (153 lb.). After numerous calls to FedEx and SOL, I was left with the option of either driving to the FedEx to pick up the mattress or they were going to send it back to SOL. These were the only option FedEx left me with before SOL could provide any solution. Not sure what could possibly caused this as I do not believe this is the 1st King mattress they shipped.

I do recommend this mattress to anyone looking for one. It is by far the most budget friendly latex mattress I could find which is also a trusted member here. Although only time will tell if it’s truly durable enough to support my weight and sleeping habits but I do enjoy this mattress very much so. If you’re thinking of ordering the King sized one, I would suggest contacting them after you place the order to make sure they’re not using FedEx Ground.
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Thanks! I made my way to Scott. Certainly will post results. Have already phone and email discussed med vs firm with SOL. Leaning toward med.

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[color=black]Hello! New poster here, so apologies if I’m not posting in the right place. After reading as much as I could on this website, we ordered an original Purple mattress (2" of purple stuff, foam below; NOT the new one with springs) about 2 months ago, but it’s not working out. We’ve still got a month left on our trial period so I thought I’d ask for some recommendations before I returned the Purple and blindly ordered a different brand.

The Purple seemed comfortable at first, but is a little too soft and I am quite achy when I wake up every morning. It also runs hotter than our old mattress.

We both alternate between side and back sleeping, are both late 30s, and are both on the short side but around 200lbs ea. Old mattress was one of the higher-end Ikea mattresses (latex and memory foam, I believe), we had it for 9 years and loved it but it developed significant craters and was no longer supportive. They don’t make that particular mattress any more, and we didn’t like any of the current Ikea mattresses (too firm or too soft, nothing in the middle).

Other than the Purple, we had also considered the OSO, the KISS, and the Sedona. I would also consider going with one of the firmer Ikea mattresses and adding a topper, since we liked our previous one so much. Would like to stay under $1200 for a king. We don’t need a box spring; we have a slatted-base platform bed. Any suggestions are appreciated!
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Everyone’s comfort will be subjective of course, but I ended up happy with the Silk and Snow.

I tried an Endy which was WAY too soft, a Polysleep that was too hard, and found the S’n’S just right.

Their customer service is outstanding, and they meet the minimum requirements as suggested here on the Mattress Underground.

Cheers!

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Isn’t Silk and Snow using a 2.7lb. memory foam in their mattress?

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S’n’S uses 4lb of real memory foam for their top layer, while the support layer is 2.7lb polyfoam (quite high density; I believe the minimum suggested for polyfoam support is 2lb, but the forums here can confirm that for you).

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According to the Silk & Snow website they use a transition layer of 2.7 lb foam under the upper layer of 4 lb memory foam, but its base support layer is actually 1.8 lb. density foam.

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Hi datwundude.

[indent] Congratulations on your Sleep On Latex (our Trusted Member) mattress purchase! :lol:
Thanks for sharing your experience with with them… I am glad you are enjoying your new mattress and sorry to hear about the set back with the FedEx shipment. Thanks though for your caution and recommendation connected with king size beds shippements in Post #4 here.
I hope you’ll have some time to update us after you have a chance to sleep on it for a while longer…[/indent]

To moonunitann

Thanks for your update, I hope your SOL mattress in on the way…Let us know what frimness you’ve decided on. As you know Sleep On Latex is one of our Trusted Members here which means that I think very highly of them and that I believe that they compete well with best in the industry in terms of their quality, value, service, knowledge, and transparency…

To strangerousanya …Welcome to our Mattress Forum! :slight_smile:
I am sorry that your Purple mattress does not work out for you, but the good news is that there are quite a few good options in your price range all with good and durable materials. Al the specs for OSO, KISS, and Sedona are listed in Post #2 here, and depending on your needs, preferences, and BMI they would all be good options to consider.

Here are a few latex or latex hybrid options that may be also worth considering, within your budget range around $1200 from our Trusted Members (I am not sure if you crossed out the innerspring option from your list but just in case you do I’ll include those as well)

[indent]SleepEZ has several options here
Arizona Premium Mattress has some options here and here and here
Luma Sleep has a Talalay/Innerspring mattress here
Flexus has a dual sided and dual firmness latex mattress here .
My Green Mattress has an all latex and a latex/pocket coil hybrid here
Sleep On Latex has two latex mattresses here .
Sedona Sleep has a two piece polyfoam/Talalay latex base mattress/topper combination here
Latex Mattress Factory has a 7" latex mattress here …[/indent]

Aside from this I would make sure to revisit the mattress shopping tutorial here(there is a condensed version of it at the end of that post) which includes all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help you make the best possible choice … and perhaps more importantly know how and why to avoid the worst ones.
When assessing any product and before making any purchase also be sure that you find out information listed here so you can compare the quality of the materials and components to the durability guidelines here to make sure there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to the durability and useful life of a mattress and all the other parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after a purchase if your choice doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for).

To seanpatrick, Napper @ Sweet Dreams

[indent]Thanks for chiming in! :slight_smile: … Silk & Snow was recently discussed and responded directly on our forum about oam spec “changes” confusion in post #14 here.

In case strangerousanya is considering this option I am listing the mattress specs as confirmed by S&S
2" of 4 lb Memory Foam
2" of 2.7 lb Responsive High-Performance Poly Foam
6" of 1.8 lb Support Polyfoam
Polyester/Spandex/Silver Infused Zipper Cover

The 2.7lb transition foam is one of the high-performance poly-foams of higher densities which was formulated to have viscoelastic properties (See post #2 here) I would place a slight caution for the higher weight ranges due to the 4 lb of memory foam in the upper layer of the mattress.[/indent]

Phoenix

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Hello!

I’m currently looking to replace an old innerspring mattress, but am having a hard time deciding whether to take the plunge and get a foam mattress (either memory or latex) or just dip my toes in the water with a foam hybrid to keep that innerspring feel. If I go with the hybrid, I’m looking at the Nest Alexander Signature Hybrid. For a latex foam option, I was looking at the SleepOnLatex 9", and for a memory foam I was looking at the new T&N Mint mattress.

To give a little background, I’m 6’4", 170#, and a combination sleeper, primarily side and back. I do have lower back pain, so I want something to help relieve that. Having never had a memory foam bed, I’m not sure how much sinking in I want to do. To throw a wrench in the works, this will also serve as a guest bed when the in-laws come to visit and one of them is on the heavier side - so I need it to also be able to support the additional weight and sleep cool.

Do you have any opinions on the mattresses that I’ve been looking at, or which way to go in general (hybrid, foam, etc)? I’ve also been checking out the KISS and Sedona Sleep mattresses from your list and find those interesting as well. And since I’m in the Richmond, VA area, I was thinking of going to check out Richmond Bedding and talking to them.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!!

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Thanks Phoenix, I will update you once I sleep on it some more. I’m looking for a queen size mattress to go on an adjustable bed. I just had a chat conversation with Luxi since the price for the Luxi One (not the 3 in 1 Adjustable Luxi) is very attractive. I’d figure I post the specs if anyone is curious.

Here’s the 3 in 1 Luxi specs which is the same as you’ve previous posted with a small variation on the cover.

The cover:
3/4 inch Quilt Loft – Quilt Foam and 1oz. Fire Resistant Fiber Fill

The Interior:
3 1/2 inch SBT Layer - A proprietary 4 lb. Density foam architecture that offers air flow and resists sagging and body impressions.
1 inch Memory Foam Layer – 4 lb. Density Visco Elastic Foam
1 1/2 inch LuxiTex Layer - 4 lb. Dunlop Process, 100% LuxiTex
3 1/2 inch Foam Base Layer – 2 lb. High Density Support Foam
Total Thickness - 10 1/4 inch

Here’s the specs I gathered on the Luxi One (non adjustable)

The cover:
same material as above without the quilted foam so the cover does not contribute to the height of the mattress

The Interior:
1 inch LuxiTex Layer
2.25 inch SBT Layer
5.75 inch Foam Base Layer
Total Thickness - 9 inches

The $500 cost difference is very attractive since I probably won’t need the adjustable feature and be happy with the standard medium firm

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Hi h-man93.

Welcome to our Mattress Forum! :slight_smile:

Note: I’ve moved your post to a different more relevant topic so as to keep the discussion in progress separate from the previous…

[quote] I’m currently looking to replace an old innerspring mattress, but am having a hard time deciding whether to take the plunge and get a foam mattress (either memory or latex) or just dip my toes in the water with a foam hybrid to keep that innerspring feel…
And since I’m in the Richmond, VA area, I was thinking of going to check out Richmond Bedding and talking to them[/quote]

Just in case you haven’t read it yet … the first place I would start your research is the tutorial post here which has all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help you make the best possible choice … and know how to avoid the worst ones. I would also keep in mind that your mattress choice depends entirely on your own personal value equation and on all the variables, tradeoffs, and personal criteria that are most important to each person.

In your case, as you are not sure about the mattress type that you best like, the first step would be to choose a manufacturer or outlet where you can do some local testing rather than a specific mattress. I am glad you were thinking to visit Richmond Bedding (our newest trusted member) as Tim is someone that “knows his stuff” and can advise you on which of the specific mattresses types may work best for you or at least he can act as a reference point … then whether you decide to buy locally or online the choice of a mattress becomes much more informed. This will certainly save you a great deal of time… connecting with the experts who already know the specs and information that you would otherwise have to learn is much more effective than “becoming” an expert yourself or focusing on more technical details that can become overwhelming. With good help and guidance … your body and your “helper” will tell you which mattress is best for you

If you like the feel of memory foam … especially if your in-laws will use it is important to have more stringent durability considerations than for average weight ranges… and the density of the memory foam and the specific type of memory foam becomes important. With weights over 200 lbs … memory foam under 5 lbs won’t hold up nearly as long as higher density/quality memory foam. In addition to this … the different types of memory foam (more or less breathable, more or less responsive, more or less temperature sensitive etc) and the different layering patterns in the mattress (how thick is the memory foam, what type of support system is under it etc) becomes a major part of how suitable any particular memory foam mattress may be for you.

“Specs” about each person’s body type and sleeping position are an important part of how each person interacts with a mattress but there are many other variables as well. There are many different types of layering combinations that can perform equally well for people of a certain height and weight and sleeping style so the most “accurate” way to “fit” a mattress to each person is to work with a knowledgeable local person who has the experience and knowledge to help you make the most suitable choices in “real time” and in person. There are some general weight and height guidelines here and some general guidelines about sleeping positions here and some information about how different types of layering can change and affect these guidelines in this section of the site but these are general guidelines and starting points only and will do more to help you understand the general lanscape of mattress shopping more than they can be used to design or recommend a specific mattress based on what I call “theory at a distance”.

As far as the “throwing the wrench in the works” goes, I’d say that you’ve got quite a bit on your hands as it is and I’d suggest that you focus on a mattress that has the best chances to be suitable for the primary sleeper(s) and only later in the process introduce more variables and considerations :?:

I look forward to any updates or findings you might have from your visit to Richmond Bedding.

Phoenix

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Hi datwundude.

Thanks for your contribution and providing the details. Yes, the price on Luxi one is very attractive … also as Luxi is a Trusted Member if you decide for either mattress, then make sure to use the TMU discount code to get a $250 off and the pillow(s) bonus.

Good luck with your new mattress hunt and let us know what you’ve decided.

Phoenix

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I ordered the SOL medium 9" mattress. It arrived within 2 days – remarkable service! Packing was excellent. I was excited! Unfortunately, sleeping on this mattress aggravates lower back, hip and leg on my left side. It makes my right shoulder feel great but I can’t tolerate the hip and back pain. I woke at 3 AM last night and moved to my previous bed, a heavily padded futon mattress with foam core, which was now on the floor. Moving helped even tho I want to replace this mattress because it’s 8 years old. I could request the firm SOL but am afraid that latex is just not for me. I have used very firm futon combos or foam alone for years. Thought latex would be the new improved mattress for me but now I am thinking not. Back to the drawing board. Anyone else had this experience? If so, did going firmer work for you? I’ve tried the latex for 2 1/2 miserable nights. SOL customer service strongly urged me toward medium. I’m afraid to trade for firm which would leave me stuck with a purchase which very well may not work for me. I want to like the SOL product but the point is to have the right mattress.

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Hi moonunitann.

I am sorry that you are experiencing discomfort and pains on your new mattress.

From your description, I cannot determine if the pains and discomfort are connected with lack of comfort, support, or both. …either way I’d strongly discourage you from making an assessment after just a few nights of sleep upon the product and keep in mind that generally there is a period of adjusting, what I like to call “period of retrogression”, where the mattress will adjust to you and you’ll adjust to your mattress and that three nights or one week would not be sufficient time to allow for your body to adjust to a new sleep surface as well as to lose some of its “learned alignment” Also a new mattress can expose some of “weaknesses” from your old sleeping conditions that the body somehow managed to adapt to… your case may be different and it could simply be an issue that the materials/comfort you’ve chosen unfortunately doesn’t meet with your needs. But I would certainly spend more than two weeks testing out any new mattress, and even if you end up returning the mattress this could be a valuable experience for your future purchase and I would use it to collect more data points.

You seem to indicate that the medium is too soft for you and you may want to do a little experiment with flipping the mattress and sleeping on the reverse side, which is a 6" of 30 ILD firmness just to see if this moves the needle in the right direction. Here are the two configurations that you are looking at:
The Pure Green Medium Option that you currently have is:
2" 20 ILD (of 4 lb/ft3) Dunlop top comfort layer
6" 30 ILD (of 4.9 lb/ft3) Dunlop support layer
The Pure Green Firm Version is what you would have if you exchange the mattress
2" 30 ILD Dunlop top comfort layer
6" 44 ILD Dunlop support layer

While “some” pain for a short time would be “normal” for some people (especially if the mattress is very different from what they are used to sleeping on) … more significant pain over a longer period certainly isn’t the norm and if the pain isn’t improving then I would certainly either exchange or return the mattress as well.

Let us know what you decide and if we can be of further assistance.

Phoenix

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Flipping the mattress is a great idea Phoenix. I will try it – trusting that firmer is the direction I want to go. And thanks for your wise counsel regarding giving the body time to adjust. I’m not always the most patient.

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Hi!

Couldn’t find a place to create a new thread/replying to this one

I have a 12 year old Simmons BeautyRest Easton model. My wife and I LOVED this mattress, but we are rapidly learning that newer Simmons models are not built to last

So, we looked at a 100% talalay latex mattress at a local store. We really liked the mattress, but it’s pricey. ($4k).

I have been looking at the Avocado mattress as well. I am wondering if that, without the pillow top but adding a Dunlop latex topper would be a good fit? Would be about $1k less than the local option, but I am wary of buying something sight unseen

I am approx 6’ tall, 252lbs. Spouse is 5’ 4", around 125lbs. I am stomach/side sleeper. She is side/back sleeper

A friend also swears by sleep number. I haven’t started looking at that yet. Any advice very appreciated!