Simplified Choice Mattresses aka Disruptors, Bed In A Box, One Choice Fits All, Universal Comfort, Millennial Mattresses

Has anyone had any experience with these?

I wrote them off initially due to their price (too low) and manufacture in China, but after a few days of back and forth with Wayfair, they managed to get the specs from the manufacturer, and they’re actually much better than the majority of bed in a box companies in Canada. What am I missing here, surely there’s a catch?

Comfort layer: 4lbs
Transition layer: 2.5lbs
Base layer: 5.5lbs

https://www.wayfair.ca/furniture/pdp/alwyn-home-cool-gel-12-memory-foam-mattress-anew1401.html?refid=TEM_WF_279&mmid=1340452465&csnid=3DDC0D7B-55E9-4927-8A0D-0CC47A38D84B&libra_c=&libra_d=&libra_g=

The 4lb could be accurate for the top memory foam layer. Even the 2.5 could be some sort of polyurethane foam for the middle layers, but the 5.5 lb wouldn’t be correct for the polyurethane foam core. 1.5 lb - 2.5 lb would be a more common range. Also, on the description on the web site it says “all foams in the mattress have 4 lbs of density”. This wouldn’t be correct. Ottesha from Wayfair (I don’t know if that is a customer of Wayfair or one of their representatives) says the foam densities range from 1.7 lb to 3.75 lbs. Whenever I’m presented with conflicting information like this (and it’s unfortunately quite common with some imported boxed bed mattresses) I tend to err on the side of caution and be quite skeptical of any further information that might be provided when it’s so inaccurate. Also, you have to decide if you are comfortable with a product being compressed for a longer period of time from China. Domestic boxed bed manufacturers and foam pourers with whom I’ve had contact generally like their products to be compressed only for 2-4 weeks. Overall, my best advice would be to proceed with caution and see if you can acquire more accurate information (thickness of each layer and the correct density would be a good start, FR barrier being used, any foam certifications like CertiPUR-US (Alwyn Home isn’t listed on the CertiPUR-US site, so find out who makes the foam and if it is certified by anyone), along with the finished weight of their queen size version to correlate density claims), and then decide if you can trust the information with which you’re presented.

There seems to be a lot of confusion over at Wayfair about their product actually. I too got an email from Ottesha stating reiterating the same specs you’ve got, 1.7 to 3.75. But Delilah (for some reason they’ve got three service reps on this) reached out to the manufacturer and called me back with the specs I posted earlier about 4lbs, 2.5 and 5.5. I’ll admit 5.5 didn’t sound right, and she did have some trouble reading the email from the manufacturer, but said she’d send a copy of it along with the mattress if I chose to purchase it.

Just now I received an email from Shannon C that somewhat reiterated what Delilah had said (but it seems Delilah confused 5lbs base foam with 5" of base foam), while Shannon can’t find the advertised info in the spec sheet, pretty clearly displayed here:

[i]Hi Sean,

Sorry for any confusion regarding the Cool Gel 12" Memory Foam Mattress. There are three layers to this mattress Cool Gel Foam, Airflow Gel-Supportive Layer and a HD Base Foam Layer.

The measurements of each layer are:
2.5 4LB GEL MEMORY FOAM
2" POLY FOAM
2" POLY FOAM
5.5" BASE FOAM

I am not seeing where it is stating All foams in the mattress have 4 lbs of density. What I am seeing in the Description is Foam Density: 1.7 to 3.75 pounds. Wayfair would never try to mislead its customers and if a productive description needs to be corrected we will most definitely do that.

Thank you for your interest in this product and if we can be of any further assistance please let us know.

Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns. Thank you for shopping with Wayfair.com.

Sincerely,

SHANNON C.
THE WAYFAIR.COM TEAM[/i]

At this point I’m not sure if everyone is looking at the same bed. In any case, if I can get any further clarification I’ll pass it along here, though I (somehow) overlooked that it wasn’t Certi-Pur certified, which is a non starter for me.

Thanks for your info,

Sean.

To be fair to the customer service people there, they’re usually just reading specifications, often the same ones that you see online, and have to do so for many different products, and generally aren’t schooled in mattresses, foams or sleep ergonomics. But the manufacturer should do a better job providing accurate specifications of their products, or the sellers should demand such. But unfortunately that’s not always the case in this industry. Regarding the CertiPUR-US certification, while they have the logo on their web page, you’d need to find out to what it refers. As the brand isn’t listed currently on the CertiPUR-US site, you’d have to find out if the actual mattress manufacturer is listed or if the pourer of the foam is listed. And even then, it doesn’t mean that all of the componentry within the mattress is certified. This is where things unfortunately can become difficult in obtaining accurate and verifiable information when buying products online from some very large online retailers.

Wow that’s infuriating. After I read your response (and out of curiosity) I cross checked the alternative mattress I just ordered from a Canadian company that lists as CertiPUR certified against the actual CertiPur website, and they’re not listed either :angry:

I’ve reached out to the business to explain the discrepancy between their claim and their not being listed as certified (while other brands such as Endy, Casper and Silk + Snow are) so won’t mention / shame them at this point, but to say I’m getting frustrated is a huge understatement.

In any case thanks so much for your insight. This website is such a fantastic resource for customers, and contributors like you are a huge asset!

I’m in the process of buying a new king mattress (coming from a spring mattress user who has never slept long term on memory foam), and did some reading through this forum as well as SleepLikeTheDead.com and some other review sites, and I think I have a brief understanding of what is good. I’m still a little torn between memory foam and latex, and will be trying out some of the local store latex mattresses once I get the chance (they are all kinda far).

However, I am really leaning towards getting the mattress from Addable, as it seems like a very budget friendly option that has a pretty quality mattress for the price, and I am 160 lb (so durability shouldn’t be an issue). My biggest concern is the heat related to memory foam, since I am someone who tends to sweat more easily than others. At first I thought latex might run cooler, but according to SleepLikeTheDead, an all latex mattress can run just as hot if not hotter than memory foam. Of course I know different brands of memory foam has different degree of cooling technology and such, but I am particularly interested in any foreseeable heating issues with Addable.

I wanted to make a separate topic asking if anyone has used the Addable mattress and if there was any obvious heat issues, but I can’t seem to find the button that will let me make a new post after registering for an account.

Any help would be appreciated.

seanpatrick,

The mattress company might not be listed on the CertiPUR-US web site, but they may be using foam that is CertiPUR-US certified, and that foam manufacturer may be listed. So if the brand (or parent company) isn’t listed, then you’d have to check on the foam supplier. Not all mattress manufacturers choose to go through certification, but if they’re posting the CertiPUR-US mark then it’s probably that they’re using foam that does have such a certification. But it’s always good to double check.

That’s exactly what they said when they got back to me (foams are certified, parent not). They also committed to undertaking certification on the website immediately, and that they’d made a note to get in contact with me as soon as the they were official (they said some time next week hopefully).

I guess we’ll wait and see. I’m a little surprised that my inquiry has spurred them to action after being in business a year thus far - but you can’t fault them for making the effort and their due diligence in addressing my concern.

Doing some mattress shopping and I’m down to Zotto, Performasleep, Dromma, and Addable. Without getting too technical, what are the tactile differences going to be? I like the sort of sink-in feeling where the foam feels hard and not springy but you melt down into it. I’m a 6 foot one 160 pound side-sleeper.

Hi AirstreamGF.

Welcome to our Mattress Forum! :slight_smile:

While nobody can speak to how any specific mattress will “feel” or what the “tactile differences” would be for someone else or whether it will be a good “match” in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP because this is too subjective and relative to different body types, sleeping positions, and individual preferences, sensitivities, and circumstances and you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress … outside of PPP (which is the most important part of “value”), the next most important part of the value of a mattress purchase is durability which is all about how long you will sleep well on a mattress. This is the part of your research that you can’t see or “feel” and assessing the durability and useful life of a mattress depends on knowing the specifics of its construction and the type and quality of the materials inside it regardless of the name of the manufacturer on the label or how a mattress feels in a showroom or when it is relatively new so I would always make sure that you find out the information listed here so you can compare the quality of the materials and components to the durability guidelines here to make sure there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to the durability and useful life of a mattress before making any purchase.

While I or any other expert on the site can certainly help with “how” to choose … It’s not possible to make specific suggestions or recommendations for either a mattress, manufacturers/retailers, or combinations of materials or components because the first “rule” of mattress shopping is to always remember that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved that are unique to each person to use a formula or for anyone to be able to predict or make a specific suggestion or recommendation about which mattress or combination of materials and components or which type of mattress would be the best “match” for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, or PPP or how a mattress will “feel” to you or compare to another mattress based on specs (either yours or a mattress), sleeping positions, health conditions, or “theory at a distance” that can possibly be more reliable than your own careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in step 4 of the tutorial) or your own personal sleeping experience (see post #2 here).

I’m not sure what you’ve read since you found the site but just in case you haven’t read it yet … the first place to start your research is the mattress shopping tutorial here which includes all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help you make the best possible choice … and perhaps more importantly know how and why to avoid the worst ones.

Two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure you’ve read are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best “match” for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, and PPP that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the “value” of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after a purchase if your choice doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for).

I hope this gives a good start in your research for a new mattress.

Phoenix

Hi AirstreamGF.

Welcome to our Mattress Forum! :slight_smile:

While nobody can speak to how any specific mattress will “feel” or what the “tactile differences” would be for someone else or whether it will be a good “match” in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP because this is too subjective and relative to different body types, sleeping positions, and individual preferences, sensitivities, and circumstances and you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress … outside of PPP (which is the most important part of “value”), the next most important part of the value of a mattress purchase is durability which is all about how long you will sleep well on a mattress. This is the part of your research that you can’t see or “feel” and assessing the durability and useful life of a mattress depends on knowing the specifics of its construction and the type and quality of the materials inside it regardless of the name of the manufacturer on the label or how a mattress feels in a showroom or when it is relatively new so I would always make sure that you find out the information listed here so you can compare the quality of the materials and components to the durability guidelines here to make sure there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to the durability and useful life of a mattress before making any purchase.

While I or any other expert on the site can certainly help with “how” to choose … It’s not possible to make specific suggestions or recommendations for either a mattress, manufacturers/retailers, or combinations of materials or components because the first “rule” of mattress shopping is to always remember that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved that are unique to each person to use a formula or for anyone to be able to predict or make a specific suggestion or recommendation about which mattress or combination of materials and components or which type of mattress would be the best “match” for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, or PPP or how a mattress will “feel” to you or compare to another mattress based on specs (either yours or a mattress), sleeping positions, health conditions, or “theory at a distance” that can possibly be more reliable than your own careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in step 4 of the tutorial) or your own personal sleeping experience (see post #2 here).

I’m not sure what you’ve read since you found the site but just in case you haven’t read it yet … the first place to start your research is the mattress shopping tutorial here which includes all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help you make the best possible choice … and perhaps more importantly know how and why to avoid the worst ones.

Two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure you’ve read are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best “match” for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, and PPP that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the “value” of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after a purchase if your choice doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for).

I hope this gives a good start in your research for a new mattress.

Phoenix

Hi AirstreamGF.

Welcome to our Mattress Forum! :slight_smile:

While nobody can speak to how any specific mattress will “feel” or what the “tactile differences” would be for someone else or whether it will be a good “match” in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP because this is too subjective and relative to different body types, sleeping positions, and individual preferences, sensitivities, and circumstances and you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress … outside of PPP (which is the most important part of “value”), the next most important part of the value of a mattress purchase is durability which is all about how long you will sleep well on a mattress. This is the part of your research that you can’t see or “feel” and assessing the durability and useful life of a mattress depends on knowing the specifics of its construction and the type and quality of the materials inside it regardless of the name of the manufacturer on the label or how a mattress feels in a showroom or when it is relatively new so I would always make sure that you find out the information listed here so you can compare the quality of the materials and components to the durability guidelines here to make sure there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to the durability and useful life of a mattress before making any purchase.

While I or any other expert on the site can certainly help with “how” to choose … It’s not possible to make specific suggestions or recommendations for either a mattress, manufacturers/retailers, or combinations of materials or components because the first “rule” of mattress shopping is to always remember that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved that are unique to each person to use a formula or for anyone to be able to predict or make a specific suggestion or recommendation about which mattress or combination of materials and components or which type of mattress would be the best “match” for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, or PPP or how a mattress will “feel” to you or compare to another mattress based on specs (either yours or a mattress), sleeping positions, health conditions, or “theory at a distance” that can possibly be more reliable than your own careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in step 4 of the tutorial) or your own personal sleeping experience (see post #2 here).

I’m not sure what you’ve read since you found the site but just in case you haven’t read it yet … the first place to start your research is the mattress shopping tutorial here which includes all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help you make the best possible choice … and perhaps more importantly know how and why to avoid the worst ones.

Two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure you’ve read are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best “match” for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, and PPP that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the “value” of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after a purchase if your choice doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for).

I hope this gives a good start in your research for a new mattress.

Phoenix

Hello, looking at some Bed in a box options here in Canada and came across a company named Fleep.
The matress is dual-sided, a soft side and a firmer side. Its a local company which is a plus for me.

Is there anything to look for in this kind of design or any weak links ? BMI under 30

Here are the specs
Firm side, perforated instant response foam (2 in.) : 4.5 lbs
Dense therapeutic foam adjusted to provide firm comfort (2 in.) 1.8 lbs
Dense therapeutic foam, adjusted to provide soft comfort (4 in.) 1.8 lbs
Soft side, perforated gel-infused memory foam (2 in.) : 4.0 lbs

Hi pled.

Welcome to our Mattress Forum! :slight_smile:

Thanks for providing the specs for Fleep. The mattress is a 4 layer, 2 comfort options (reversible)10" Gel-infused Memory Foam that was launched a little more than two years ago by Matelas Fleep inc. in Quebec (CEO Gelinas)
The mattress uses Memory foam comfort layers and CertiPUR certified polyurethane foam with removable cover, (74% Polyester, 25% Thermocool® fiber, 1% spandex~ sportswear hand-washable fabric) and it uses FR sock that encloses the mattress layers; Based on the densities you provided there are no red flags at your under 30 BMI.

When considering this mattress I would keep in mind that the mattress does not have further customization options to rearrange or exchange layers to fine tune it if it turns out that it’s not a suitable choice for your specific needs and preferences, so it would be an “all or nothing” purchase. It has a 111 days free trial and returns policy, with a better return policy if you chose to purchase it from Costco (Canada only). I would recommend that you test the mattress to determine if you like the feel of it and if it is a good fit for you at a nearby Costco store. (Softness and firmness and the “feel” of a mattress is very subjective and varies with each person’s weight and body type, sleeping positions, preferences, and individual perceptions)

In case you are considering this item, I would also make sure to check Costco’s warranty policy and their online here and make sure that you have a suitable foundation to place the product upon and that you rotate the mattress periodically as directed in their care instructions.

Hope this helps with your research for a new mattress.

Phoenix

Hello there! Fist day here. I’ve started my journey on replacing my 21-year-old mattress and the first thing I would like to say is that I’m so fortunately to have stumbled upon this great site. I’ve done some reading here but I’m sure there are many things I’ve missed. With the current knowledge I have, I do have a few questions, in particularly about some of the options in the current “SIMPLIFIED CHOICE MATTRESS COMPARISON TABLE”. But before I get to the questions, here’s a little about my situation. I am a big guy, 6’2" 250 lbs. so my BMI is 30+ and will need more durable materials (2 lb. poly form or 5 lb. memory foam). I think I’m a side sleeper? Or at least I fall asleep on my side, but I’d wake up either on my side or back. My preferred budget for a King-sized mattress would be around $1000 but may go up a bit higher as much as $1500.

Now, on with the list of mattresses on the comparison table, I’m curious if there are any information on the other models offered by some of these manufacturers who make great quality products. I’m curious about the “Serenity Mattress” offered by Arizona Premium. The description says it’s from the manufacture who made Casper but this model is “step above and still much less expensive”. I also love the information on “Kiss Mattress” by SleepEZ. Love the price for “Addable”, although I can’t seem to find the link to their Mattress Matchmaker questionnaire and I’m concerned about sleeping hot since I don’t see any cooling material in their construction.

I’ve been looking at GhostBed and Purple prior to reading this site (probably due to their online marketing presence) but 1 has a 4 lb. gen memory foam and other has a 1.8 lb. polyfoam which got them a “slight caution” for heavier sleepers like myself. What’s the estimated impact on this? Should I cross them off of my list?

Sorry for the long post (probably due to information overload), but any additional insights would be greatly appreciated to help me narrow down the choices. I also apologize in advance if some of the questions have been addressed and I missed it via the Search function.

EDIT:
I’ve done more reading since my initial post and have found some of the local manufacturers near me (Los Angeles area) through here. The two I found seem to focus on high quality Latex mattresses. The 10 inch ones cost a bit over my current budget but one of their website show the 13 inch is the most popular? Could it be due to an extra latex layer with a different firmness? It seems as the more I read the more I learn and more options are now available. How will these high end customizable latex mattress compare to Kiss (Sleep EZ) or Pure Green (Sleep on Latex)?

Hi datwundude.

Welcome to our Mattress Forum! :slight_smile: I am glad you have found us.

It seems that you are on the right track in your search for a new mattress. BMI is a good general place to start and you are looking for the right specs for your weight range to ensure durability. You may have already come across this post in your research but just in case you haven’t read it yet, Post #3 here has more information and suggestions about heavier weights and it is worth reading. Higher BMI people in general will need firmer and thicker comfort layers and firmer support layers than those who are lighter and because no materials will last as long with much higher weights the quality and durability of the materials and components is even more important than normal.

I think you might be misreading some of the information provided by Arizona Premium. They do not carry a “Serenity Mattress”; they do however make some comparisons between mattresses where they indeed mention this bed here and here. Serenity is a Savvy Rest mattress which uses good quality materials but has a higher price point so people considering them would want to make some personal value equations. Arizona Premium offers comparable mattresses at a much lower price point and if you let me know the mattress you are considering I’d be happy to comment upon it. They are also one of the members here which means that I think very highly of them and that I believe they compete well with the best in the industry in terms of their quality, value, knowledge, service, and transparency.

The KISS mattress is produced by SleepEZ, one of the oldest and most-respected independent mattress manufactures in the United States. SleepEZ is very experienced in both latex and memory foam mattresses, and I do think highly of them, their products and their experience.

Thank you for mentioning this… it triggered me to update the information on the Simplified Choice thread for this Mattress! :slight_smile: Addable is in the process of making some product and website changes and the mattress matching questionnaire has been removed from their website. There is caution on this mattress for higher weight ranges as it has 2" of 4lb Memory foam and 2" of 1.8 lb polyfoam which is less than what is usually recommended.

It is not possible to estimate the impact of lower quality components, except in general terms, as this depends on many interconnected factors and a combination of the mattress design, foams used, foam formulations, thickness and the positioning of a specific layer within the mattress along with the mechanical stress and compression that each sleeper exerts on the mattress. All foams go through stresses, and the higher the mass placed upon those foams, especially the uppermost layers, the higher the mechanical stress. A mattress that has softened or changed to the degree that it no longer provides the support, pressure relief, or personal preferences for one person may still be fine for someone else. It’s usually not the final breakdown of materials that leads to the need to replace a mattress but the gradual loss of comfort and support that finally “crosses” a line and at some point is no longer suitable for that person to sleep on. Each person’s “line” can be very different. There is more about the varied factors involved in mattress durability in post #2 here .

Kiss mattress has 2 firmness choices to cover a broader range of the bell curve that will fit more people than a single firmness choice. Pure Green has a basic 7" model and 9" that is customizable before and after purchase (the heavy duty Zipper encasement is hidden under the bottom edge of the mattress.) And they are both suitable for higher weight ranges.
If you let me know which of the 10" and 13" mattresses you are looking at and provide the information I’d be happy to make some comments. Be sure that you find out information listed here so you can compare the quality of the materials and components to the durability guidelines here to make sure there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to the durability and useful life of a mattress before making any purchase.

Good luck! and once you’ve had the chance to narrow things down a little further, feel free to post back with any specific questions and I or any of our Expert Members will be happy to assist you.

Phoenix

Hi Phoenix,

Thank you for your detailed response! I actually got in touch with Scott today and received the discount information for Sleep On Latex. I was narrowing down between them and Kiss but felt a full Latex may simplify many factors which I’m not too familiar with. Both Kiss and Sleep On Latex use great quality material so I’m confident either one of them will take good care of me. Can you tell me a bit more on the customization “before and after purchase”? I know they have 3 firmness to choose from but based on my BMI and being mainly a side sleeper, do you suggest any other customizations? Sleep On Latex recommends the soft version, will it provide the necessary suppourt or should I try the medium version due to the hight BMI? I’ll wait for your knowledgeable response again before placing the order. Thanks again.

Edit: the 2 local manufacturers I was referring to are flexus comfort and foam sweet foam, both are members here but the high quality fully customizable mattresses were just too expensive for my budget and PPP value. I’m not good at making decisions so more options isn’t a good thing for me. Also the serenity mattress from Arizona Premium is at http://sedonasleep.com/serenity-bed-in-a-box/ I saw some other members who also has their own mattresses with this name.

Hi datwundude.

I am glad you got in touch with Scott to take advantage of the SOL coupon, and yes both SleepEZ and SleepOnLatex use good quality/value materials within their mattresses that would be suitable for high weight ranges.

More and more mattresses are available as a “component-style” system where the layers are not glued and swappable, even split, and configurable before and after purchase. Depending on the mattress design, the “before purchase” part allows the customer to select the type of material (Blended, natural, synthetic, or specialty foams) and firmness (XS, S, M, MF, F, XF) of the layers within the mattress to achieve different comfort levels. The “after purchase” part would allow the customer to fine-tune their mattress by unzipping and opening the mattress cover/encasement to remove one or more layers within the mattress in order to exchange them for different firmness levels without shipping the entire unit back to the retailer/manufacturer. The largest advantage to the component-style system is the ability to customize, replace, and rearrange layers over time to create different comforts or to replace worn out uppermost layer (which usually undergoes the most mechanical stress and is the softest layer within a system). Component-style systems are usually much easier to ship and have layers that can be shipped in separate boxes, but you would need to assemble those on your own. Usually mattressess that are customizable only “before purchase” are made by manufacturers who can “tailor” a mattress to suit particular customer needs (feel, comfort, size, etc.) and are delivered as finished products that cannot be opened and further customized and are more stable (tufted, custom made mattresses for RVs. etc. ) You can read more about the pros and cons of “finished mattresses” that generally have glued layers vs component mattresses with unglued layers and a zip cover in post #15 here and post #2 here.

SOL’s suggestion makes sense for side sleepers. Heavier people, in general, will need firmer and thicker comfort layers and firmer support layers than those who are lighter and because no materials will last as long with much higher weights the quality and durability of the materials and components is even more important than normal. SOL Dunlop is a very durable material but they’ve recently changed the firmness of the top layer for their Pure Green soft version so I suggest that you call once more and make sure that they’ve taken into account your high BMI when they make their recommandation. Post #3 here has more information and suggestions about heavier weights that is worth reading.

The specifications for each of the two options you are considering from SOL are
SOL’s Pure Green Medium Option
2" 20 ILD (of 4 lb/ft[sup]3[/sup]) Dunlop top comfort layer
6" 30 ILD (of 4.9 lb/ft[sup]3[/sup]) Dunlop support layer
… (medium 9" proving to be a better solution for a combo sleeper that spends time on their side and occasionally their back.)
SOL’s Pure Green Soft Option
2" 20 ILD (of 4 lb/ft[sup]3[/sup]) Dunlop top comfort layer 65 kg/m[sup]3[/sup]
6" 22 ILD(of 4.4lb/ft[sup]3[/sup]) Dunlop support layer
…(better choice for a side sleeper)

Of course… Sedona mattress completely slipped my mind, I was totally zooming in on Mattresses.net Thanks for the reminder. :wink:

Phoenix

Hi Phoenix,

Thank you again for the additional information. I ordered the medium firm one from Sleep on Latex and it should be arriving at the end of this week or early next week. I will let you know once I get a chance to try it out and fingers crossed that I’ve made a right choice. Thank you again for everything.

Hi datwundude.

Congratulation on your new mattress purchase! :cheer: Thanks for the update!

Yes… hopefully the firmness choice is the right one for you and no furher twitchiing is needed. (Fingers crossed :slight_smile: )

SOL is using high quality and durable materials and have great customer service as well … I am sure they’ll take good care of you either way.

I am looking forward to any updates you might have once you’ve had a chance to sleep upon it for a while.

Phoenix