Something like Sealy Optimum Destiny Memory Foam

So my beloved Simmons Beautyrest World Class Firm mattress purchased 16 yrs ago went to my Ex. I have been sleeping for nine months on a Sealy pillow top given to me by a friend from her guest room, and I HATE it. I wake every morning with a back ache, find myself tossing/turning all night, and it looks as if I have been sleeping in a divet.

I went to a mom&pop mattress place just to take a look around. Ended up gravitating back to the Sealy Optimum Destiny. I was switching back and forth between a Stearns and Foster firm innerspring (the guy said, “this is as close as I have to plywood with a layer of foam,” in response to my quip that I might just make my own bed). But as I lay on the memory foam mattress, I realized that it was doing a better job of relieving point pressure than the firmer innerpsring while also still feeling very supportive.

I also tried out an Enzo Dreamweaver mattress and that felt pretty good as well.

I have concerns about longevity for both of these memory foam mattress and their component based on what I have read here. Has anyone had many months or years experience with either the ENZO DREAMWEAVER or the SEALY OPTIMUM DESTINY, or have you purchase something of equivalent firmness that has held up? Both these mattresses feel good to me, but I can’t be buying a new mattress two years from now…I need something that will hold up. Maybe not for 17 years, I know, but 5-7 would be nice.
I am a back/side sleeper 5’8" 155 lbs.

Many thanks for any advice!

Hi dairymaid,

[quote]So my beloved Simmons Beautyrest World Class Firm mattress purchased 16 yrs ago went to my Ex. I have been sleeping for nine months on a Sealy pillow top given to me by a friend from her guest room, and I HATE it. I wake every morning with a back ache, find myself tossing/turning all night, and it looks as if I have been sleeping in a divet.

I went to a mom&pop mattress place just to take a look around. Ended up gravitating back to the Sealy Optimum Destiny. I was switching back and forth between a Stearns and Foster firm innerspring (the guy said, “this is as close as I have to plywood with a layer of foam,” in response to my quip that I might just make my own bed). But as I lay on the memory foam mattress, I realized that it was doing a better job of relieving point pressure than the firmer innerpsring while also still feeling very supportive.[/quote]

While I can certainly help with “how” to choose … it’s not possible to make specific suggestions or recommendations for either a mattress, manufacturers/retailers, or combinations of materials or components because the first “rule” of mattress shopping is to always remember that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved that are unique to each person to use a formula or for anyone to be able to predict or make a specific suggestion or recommendation about which mattress or combination of materials and components or which type of mattress would be the best “match” for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, or PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences) or how a mattress will “feel” to you or compare to another mattress based on specs (either yours or a mattress), sleeping positions, health conditions, or “theory at a distance” that can possibly be more reliable than your own careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in step 4 of the tutorial) or your own personal sleeping experience (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here).

I’m not sure what you’ve read since you found the site but just in case you haven’t read it yet … the first place to start your research is the mattress shopping tutorial here which includes all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help you make the best possible choice … and perhaps more importantly know how and why to avoid the worst ones.

Two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure you’ve read are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best “match” for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, and PPP that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the “value” of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well he will sleep), durability (how long he will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after a purchase if your choice doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for).

While again nobody can speak to how any specific mattress will “feel” for someone else or whether it will be a good “match” in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP because this is too subjective and relative to different body types, sleeping positions, and individual preferences, sensitivities, and circumstances and you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress … outside of PPP (which is the most important part of “value”), the next most important part of the value of a mattress purchase is durability which is all about how long you will sleep well on a mattress. This is the part of your research that you can’t see or “feel” and assessing the durability and useful life of a mattress depends on knowing the specifics of its construction and the type and quality of the materials inside it regardless of the name of the manufacturer on the label or how a mattress feels in a showroom or when it is relatively new so I would always make sure that you find out information listed here so you can compare the quality of the materials and components to the durability guidelines here to make sure there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to the durability and useful life of a mattress before making any purchase.

The major brands such as Sealy/Stearns & Foster, Simmons, and Serta all tend to use lower quality and less durable materials in their mattresses than most of their smaller competitors that will tend to soften or break down prematurely relative to the price you pay which is why I would generally suggest avoiding all of them completely (along with the major retailers that focus on them as well) regardless of how they may feel in a showroom along with any mattress where you aren’t able to find out the type and quality/durability of the materials inside it (see the guidelines here along with post #3 here and post #12 here and post #404 here).

I’m guessing you mean Enso rather than Enzo.

I would be very cautious with Enso because they tend to use lower quality/density memory foam in their mattresses (in the range of 3 lb) that is also a lower quality and less durable material than I would suggest considering. At the very least I would make sure that you find out the density of all the memory foam and polyfoam layers before considering an Enso mattress to confirm that there are no lower quality materials or weak links in the mattress that would compromise the durability and useful life of the mattress. They are also manufactured in China and shipped compressed to North America so I would also read post #6 here for more about Chinese imports and some of the additional uncertainty and risk that can be involved in purchasing a mattress that is made in China.

[quote]I have concerns about longevity for both of these memory foam mattress and their component based on what I have read here. Has anyone had many months or years experience with either the ENZO DREAMWEAVER or the SEALY OPTIMUM DESTINY, or have you purchase something of equivalent firmness that has held up? Both these mattresses feel good to me, but I can’t be buying a new mattress two years from now…I need something that will hold up. Maybe not for 17 years, I know, but 5-7 would be nice.
I am a back/side sleeper 5’8" 155 lbs.[/quote]

I would be very concerned about the quality and durability of all the mattresses you mentioned as well and I certainly wouldn’t consider any of them (or any mattress that uses similar quality/density materials).

If you let me know your city or zip code I’d be happy to let you know about the better options or possibilities I’m aware of in your area.

Phoenix

I am in on the VT/NH border

Hi dairymaid,

It would be helpful if you could let me know your zip code or the city or town that is closest to you.

Phoenix

Burlington/Montpelier or Lebanon are all within easy distance. 05402,05602, 03756

Hi dairymaid,

Subject to first confirming that any retailer or manufacturer on the list you wish to deal with is completely transparent (see this article) and to making sure that any mattress you are considering meets your specific criteria and the quality/value guidelines here … the better options or possibilities I’m aware of in and around the Topsham area (which would include Lebanon and Montpelier) are listed in post #4 here.

The Burlington list is in post #4 here.

Phoenix