Spring Air/Biscayne Bedding

Hi, Stopped by a very reputable independent mattress store today. Low overhead, in a warehouse area, but super reputation and reviews.

He stated he is a suppler to condos and hotels in addition to his storefront.

He had a bunch of Spring Air products in there at really good prices. He had hybrids and coil mattresses that frankly felt very comfortable and seem to have similar composition to the big S guys, but much lower prices. He stated that spring air was really made by Biscayne mattress, and that these were good quality.

Is Biscayne a solid manufacturer?

Also he showed.mr an MlLilly hybrid that felt pretty doggone close to the Tempur pedic feel to me, but he did say it was a bed ina box. Price was attractive too

Is Mlilly any good?

I’m only asking because the prices were great, and I don’t want to buy low quality stuff.

Thanks!

Biscayne isn’t a big name like Serta or Sealy, but within the regional and hospitality world, they have a decent reputation for durable, no-frills, high-value builds, for those venues. Whenever you are not inundated a lot of heavy marketing means you often get better materials for the price.

The contract with Spring Air is only one that exists with Biscayne in the State of Florida.

Their stuff may not have all the fancy branding but often uses solid foams, good coils, and can hold up well.

And that is the point. Mattresses made for the hospitality industry are typically designed to last 3 - 5 years. Thus, it is unclear whether these more bargain mattresses are over stock from the Hospitality market or specifically made for independent retailers.

Furthermore, what matters is what the components the mattresses constructed with. What springs, what diameter, spring gauge, number of turns, are they hardened? The foams; what foams are they using? What is the density of the foams, are they viscoelastic memory foam, polyurethane foam, or latex. What are the complete specifications of those foams.

If you have read through some of the educational readings here at TMU, you would know what to look for. Suppose Biscayne is solid manufacturer, but they make a lousy mattress for Spring Air. Not knowing what is inside leaves us with no way of answering that question, regarding Biscayne as it pertains to the Spring Air’s they make in Florida.

If the Spring Airs made by Biscayne feel good to you and have a good return policy or comfort exchange window, they can be an excellent value, especially if the specs (coils, foam density, etc.) line up well.

MLILY is a Chinese-based manufacturer with a growing U.S. presence. They supply mattresses for various brands and are one of the global partners of Manchester United (random, but true).

Their hybrids and all-foam beds, especially the ones aiming to mimic Tempur-Pedic, can offer a similar feel at a much lower price point.

MLILY is generally considered a budget-conscious brand. Build quality is decent but not premium. In many cases, their foam densities are a bit lower than high-end brands, which can affect durability over time.
Bed in a box factor: MLILY mattresses are compressed and shipped, so they’ll have some initial off-gassing and might need 24–48 hours to fully expand. This isn’t a quality dealbreaker, but it’s good to know.

I have made this statement about mattresses that are compressed, rolled and boxed. They rival some of the best modern day legacy brands, and many exceed those legacy brands in overall, quality, durability and longevity. Many quality BiB’s are indistinguishable from their conventional counterparts.

As with the Spring Air’s you were introduced to, the BiB mattresses must meet the mattress component standards we speak about here at TMU.

from the Biscayne Bedding Website:

Maverick

This is awesome info. I should have you guys on zoom when I’m in the store.

As for spring air, I only noticed it because my parents had one in the 80s and 90s, and it was pretty good. Apparently Biscayne has the license to the name I guess. These were 8 inch pocket coils, and there were some super cheap models with. 3.5.

They felt good though!

I remember making a note that the foam layers had similar density’s and stats to I think the some if sealys that we saw that were similar. Didn’t get the number of turns. Anyway, the said six months, as ilong as it’ has no stains, no questions asked hassle free returns. He was a really nice guy who seemed smart and no pressure. The owner even talked about Spring Air being a Tampa company at one point, and he even knew stuff about the machines in that factory that make the beds, and how Biscayne I think is using those. So maybe a pass on the Mlilly, its maybe a starter bed?

Really spent the whole day shopping today. Didnt like OMF, but respected the quality and was treated nicely. Tried a paramount HD, again respected it, none of them had the right feel. King koil Jasmine was very nice, but wife didn’t like the tufts!

Oddly enough, we did like the Sealy Posturepedic Hybrid pros-price point was good too, but again s brand quality concerns. I actually liked the blue lagoon standard coil bed I tried too. I forget if it was Sealy or serta. That bed had a great price on it!

Back to the tempurpedic front, as my wife just lives that line. Are any of the beds in that line made remotely like the used to be as far as good foams etc? Maybe the Pro or the luxe?

Apparently her mom knows someone who is a direct distributor as opposed to a “retailer” and we can actually get a break on pricing.

I’m sure you’ve had enough of my shopping adventures! But I had the underground on my phone all day, a long with goodbed.

This mattress stuff has proved to be absolutely fascinating.

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The closest you are going to find to any older temperpedic is Tempflow.

When they tell you the densities of the Florida Spring Air by Biscayne, please post that here somewhere, as well as the gauge of the coils, it would be interesting to know. Spring Air was and still is a decent brand.

Chattam and Wells, a very fine mattress is made by, you guessed it, Spring Air.

Again, it is all about what is on the inside, not who makes it.