Tempur Sealy Coocoon for side sleeper? Returned Tuft & Needle

We’re having a heck of a time with mattresses. We got two defective (and returned) mattresses from a local store. (One Serta and one I can’t recall at the moment) We then tried a third traditional mattress from the same store and it wound up being so uncomfortable that after a couple years we cut our losses on it and trashed it and bought a Tuft & Needle.

Unfortunately, I’m a right side sleeper and the T&N was really painful for my right hip. I don’t know if that’s a function of it being too firm or too soft. It was the first "bed in a box’ we tried. My wife was fine on it but I just couldn’t handle it after a week or so. The hip pain got pretty bad.

I’m thinking of trying the Tempur Sealy Coccon as they have the “Soft” and “Firm” options and have a good return policy. Basically, whichever firmness would be closest to the default firmness of the T&N we’ll try the other. (In other words, if the T&N is like the Coocoon “Firm” then we’d try the Cocoon “Soft” instead)

Any suggestions from Cocoon owners or does anyone know how they compare to the firmness of the T&N?

Hi Trebor,

While other people’s comments about the knowledge and service of a particular store or business can certainly be very helpful … I would always keep in mind that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress so I would be very cautious about about using anyone else’s suggestions, experiences or reviews on a specific mattress (either positive or negative) or review sites in general as a reliable source of information or guidance about how you will feel on the same mattress or how suitable or how durable a mattress may be for you. In many if not most cases they can be more misleading than helpful because a mattress that would be a perfect choice for one person or even a larger group of people in terms of “comfort”, firmness, and PPP may be completely unsuitable for someone else to sleep on (even if they are in a similar weight range). In other words … reviews or other people’s experiences in general won’t tell you much if anything about the suitability, quality, durability, or “value” of a mattress for any particular person (see post #13 here).

There are also no “standard” definitions or consensus of opinions for firmness ratings and different manufacturers can rate their mattresses very differently than others so a mattress that one manufacturer rates as being a specific firmness could be rated very differently by another manufacturer. Different people can also have very different perceptions of firmness and softness compared to others as well and a mattress that feels firm for one person can feel like “medium” for someone else or even “soft” for someone else (or vice versa) depending on their body type, sleeping style, physiology, their frame of reference based on what they are used to, and their individual sensitivity and perceptions. There are also different types of firmness and softness that different people may be sensitive to that can affect how they “rate” a mattress as well (see post #15 here) so different people can also have very different opinions on how two mattresses compare in terms of firmness. This is all relative and very subjective and is as much an art as a science.

The Cocoon is also a memory foam mattress so even in the same firmness level it would have a very different “feel” than the Tuft & Needle which doesn’t contain any memory foam.

Having said that … out of the two firmness choices they offer the Cocoon firm would be closer to the overall firmness of the Tuft & Needle than the soft.

More importantly though … there is more about the 3 most important parts of the “value” of a mattress purchase in post #13 here which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on suitability, durability, and all the other parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after a purchase if your choice doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for).

While nobody can speak to how any specific mattress will “feel” for someone else or whether it will be a good “match” in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences) because this is too subjective and relative to different body types, sleeping positions, and individual preferences, sensitivities, and circumstances and you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress … outside of PPP (which is the most important part of “value”), the next most important part of the value of a mattress purchase is durability which is all about how long you will sleep well on a mattress. This is the part of your research that you can’t see or “feel” and assessing the durability and useful life of a mattress depends on knowing the specifics of its construction and the type and quality of the materials inside it regardless of the name of the manufacturer on the label or how a mattress feels in a showroom or when it is relatively new so I would always make sure that you find out information listed here so you can compare the materials and components to the durability guidelines here to make sure there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to the durability and useful life of a mattress before making any purchase.

Most importantly of all … there is also more about the Sealy Cocoon in this topic that I would make sure you read. As you can see I would avoid this mattress completely along with any mattress where you can’t confirm the quality and durability of the materials inside it because the risk of premature foam softening and breakdown and the loss of comfort and support would mean that there would be a much higher risk that you would need to buy a new mattress much sooner than you hoped for and foam softening and the loss of comfort and support isn’t covered by mattress warranties (see post #174 here).

This would be a very risky purchase in terms of the durability and useful life of the mattress regardless of how it may feel in terms of its comfort, firmness, and PPP when the mattress is still relatively new and the chance of buyer’s remorse much too quickly after a purchase would be much too high.


Had the soft, well, actually have it now while waiting for my Essentia mattress to be shipped! And then will return this one. I am a 120lb side sleeper and it’s just to firm. Infact, i’d rate it to be more medium in general. Very pretty mattress tho, i wish it were actually more soft. I currently have a tempurpedic brand 5.25lb topper on it, which makes it okay for side sleeping. But that’s me, i need an actual “soft”/“plush” mattress. I can do medium in expensive mattresses like Essentia and Vi Spring but not regular mattresses.

If i were to compare the softeness level of the cocoon soft to any of the tempurpedics it would be the cloud prima, which i also find too firm.