The Pillow: Just How Important is it?

If snoring is the issue, my recommendation would be the Oxygen Pillow. It has a unique design with a firmer perimeter and a hollow center that, when used correctly, helps position the head and neck at a more favorable angle for reducing snoring. Proper head placement is important, but when aligned correctly, the design can make a noticeable difference. Great for back or side sleeping.

The cube pillow, for me, is more like a traditional shape pillow with a uniform feel throughout the pillow, just with a fill that does not go flat, you dont need to fluff it, and the feel and displacement of the fill when you lie on it, is predictable, comfortable and feels the same regardlessof where you rest your head in it and remains uniformly supportive.

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Good to know, thanks!

The tricky part with the Oxygen pillow is sizing. I suppose it’s better to have more options than fewer, but it is a bit overwhelming.

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Totally agree—pillows are the unsung hero of sleep. I used to think my mattress was the problem, but swapping to a higher loft shredded memory foam one (for side sleeping) fixed my chronic neck pain overnight.

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I ended up getting an Oxygen pillow in 1.5 soft. I’m 5’11" 180lbs. Kind of feels like throwing darts if you can’t try one in person, so hopefully I got it right. If it takes multiple attempts to get the right size, that gets expensive in a hurry.

I also ordered two more pillows from CozyPure to add to my rotation: a buckwheat pillow and the Contour LaNoodle.

I’m still tempted to get a cervical latex pillow, but the LaNoodle may also fit that niche.

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Wow, you really went all out. I use the tallest and firmest O2. That’s my comfort zone. If it could have been firmer, I would have gone firmer. It’s still in my nightly rotation as I have not found any pillow that is better for me in this category, and hopefully you will have the same success I have.

I haven’t tried the CP buckwheat pillow or the Contour yet, but definitely let me know how they work out. I’m always on the hunt. You may find the CP Contour offers a similar neck support to the O2, though I’m not sure how firm it is without adding fill. The design does seem to lend itself well to supporting the natural curve of the neck while cradling the head.

For me, the perimeter of the O2, especially with the firmer edge, provides excellent neck support.

Best of luck, and I hope you put together a great, comfortable rotation.

Maverick

Before finding your posts here, I have been practically been on the exact same path. Already decided on the bedroomsandmore wool filled cover, 2 inserts and then a 100% cotton pillow case. Though I got some free memory foam and free latex from a local mattress company where I leave that uses quality foam and latex (I’ve bought mattresses from them in the past and have been happy). Actually got the foam mainly to make a beanies bean bag chair for my son to lounge around; I cut up the foam in inch pieces and stuff it in an “stuff animal bag” like you can find on amazon. got an inner line from amazon for it too. It’s worked out great and he loves it.

With the rest of the foam and a little latex I got from the mattress company I’m going to create a memory foam one side, latex other side pillow, wrapping it in the wool cover and then a pillow case. I went and ahead and just ordered the 100% cotton percale pillow cases from bedrooms andmore; I had seen the California Design Den (CDD) ones and was sold on it until I saw some very lower rated reviews on amazon that make them sound low quality. So am curious how the CDD ones have turned out for you?

Also have the bioweaves inserts done well? Initially I was thinking of getting some 100% organic cotton inner shells from CeCeWool, but they’re double the cost plus shipping compared to the Bioweaves ones.
I have also considered silk filled pillows but quickly realized they are too much outside of what I’m willing to spend at this time for a pillow.

Do you have any experience with silk pillow covers? Tempted to get some for my daughters if they truly help with acne and/or hair.

Anyway, just wanted to say thanks for your in-depth posts. Was refreshing to read what I quoted from you since I’ve been on the same track.

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Thanks for your follow-up.

I have about half a dozen silk pillowcases that I bought for my wife and adult stepdaughter when she visits. They both have very curly hair, think Bernadette Peters hair. They seem to like them. My daughter is always discovering some new, usually expensive product that’s supposedly the latest “best” thing to use. Personally, I find the silk a bit annoying, especially if they use product in their hair. It definitely stains, and it’s hard as heck to clean.

The Bioweave pillowcase or liner is okay, but I actually like this one better. It has that stripe pattern, so I know which pillow fill is which. I’ve washed it a couple of times, and it’s very soft and breathable. The Bedroom and More wool covers are great. They mask most lumps or irregularities in the fill. I recently bought some more latex noodles on Amazon but haven’t had time to use them yet.

I recently got @BalooLiving Linen Pillowcases and then a complete king sheet set. I have to say, after several washes, these linen pillowcases are just fantastic. They are breathable, very soft, and easy to wash. The best way to describe them is peaceful to sleep on. So far, they’re better than any other material I’ve tried.

That said, I own 75 to 100 plus pillows across all five beds in the house, 1 master, 2 guest, and 2 test beds. All the other pillows are covered with CDD. I’ve opted for either their Egyptian or Organic cases and sheets, as both pillow cases come standard with the envelope design so the pillows don’t slip out. Baloo’s linen is envelope style too. Other than needing a few washes to soften up, using a cup of vinegar as nature’s fabric softener, 100 percent wool dryer balls on low tumble, and never ever fabric softener, the CDD covers have never given me an issue. Not a seam out of place, nothing.

I recently tried Rest.com cooling pillow, cover, and sheets. The pillow wasn’t supportive enough for me, but my wife loves it, mostly because of the fabric the cover is made from. She loves how cold it feels to the touch. It’s as if you just took it out of the refrigerator. Yes, really. Their blanket feels that cold too. Even just sitting around on the dresser or in the linen closet. The sucker is always cold.

CeCe’s looks pretty good, but I’m not certain how much better their organic cotton will be than some of the others. I suppose if you splurged on one pair, you could just skip Starbucks for a week. LOL.

One thing I’ve learned is that even if you’re using a queen pillowcase, a standard liner packed with fill will be firmer than a queen liner filled with the same amount. So if you’re looking for a particular firmness that leans firmer, you can get away with a well packed standard liner. Since it ends up more lofty, it will still fit nicely in a standard/queen pillow cover. If you pack a queen liner the same way, it can be a tight squeeze getting it into a queen cover, especially if you’re using a quilted wool or similar cover.

I’m glad you enjoyed building your own pillow and gained something from the post. I’d love to follow your progress. I’m now entertaining the idea of firm feather or down pillows to compete with my horsehair pillows.

All the best,
Maverick

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Greatly appreciate the feedback! Feel like I’ve enlisted a bedding consultant! Good point on the standard vs queen liner size. I’ve never owned a silk pillow cover, so thanks for the info on them.

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@Maverick Can you provide a link to the latex noodles on Amazon? Thx.

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DS1YYZZM?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_1

This was the last one I bought but have not opened yet. Previously, I bought 2 huge 5lb bags, but they are no longer available.

I’ve been trying to DIY my own pillow, am running into some challenges, and am hoping the followers of this thread might be able to help me. I am a broad-shouldered side sleeper. I had previously tried a shredded latex filled pillow, which work okay for me. I had also tried a Nest side sleeper pillow. However, I find side sleeper “curved” pillows too narrow in the middle and the fill seems to “split” like a wishbone out to the sides.

Inspired by this post, I purchased the Bio Sleep Iris Quilted Cotton Pillow Case. I have tried combinations of woo bolus, lanoodles and kapok – all placed in individual inserts. Currently, I’m at a roughly 2:1 Kapok:Lanoodle mix. There are two challenges I’m having:

  1. I am having a hard time getting good “loft” in the pillow. As I add fill for loft, I find that the pillow just gets dense and laying on it starts to hurt my ears. I thought kapok was good for loft and cushion, and perhaps the thickness of the Iris case is contributing to the firmer feeling?
  2. The pillow doesn’t seem to “cradle” around my head/neck, but rather the liners seem to just push back within the pillow over the course of the night. I would expect this would change if I had one liner filled with a blend of materials. But since I’m not finding the right comfort blend I’m unwilling to commit to inextricably blending materials within a liner. Further, I accept that the liners shifting inside of the Iris case may be an inevitable byproduct of having multiple materials together (case + liner) vs just filling the case with fill materials.

I realize there’s a lot in this post, I’m really looking to better understand how the thickness of Iris case, and the modular build style of a DIY pillow, would be affecting the overall comfort.

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It sounds like you’ve put a tremendous amount of thoughtful experimentation into your builds, and I really appreciate how intentionally you’re approaching material behavior rather than just chasing loft numbers. I have tried a couple of “side sleeper” crescent shaped pillows, but they have never worked out for me. In that regard the Oxygen-Pillow is a better fit, as it has a firmer perimeter with a hollow center, which allows me to sleep on it whether on my side or back, and still get plenty of support. And it is very easy on the ear, which is something you seem to have issues with.

I haven’t personally tried wool bolus yet, in combination with latex noodles, but I’ve experimented quite a bit with different fiber and foam combinations, and I’ve noticed many of the same mechanical principles you’re describing. Here is a


of one of my favorite builds using latex noodles and horsehair. Horsehair, for me, is incredibly resilient and progressively firms up as it compresses, which I really enjoy from a support standpoint. At the same time, there are moments when I want more surface cradling, and the latex noodles seem to introduce just enough elasticity and contour to balance that out. In combination, I find it makes for an extremely comfortable and responsive pillow.

I’ve also experimented with wool batting from Sonoma Wool Company, and one of the more interesting discoveries was how the same fiber can either soften or firm up a structure depending on how it’s applied. For example, wrapping a thin layer of wool around horsehair takes the edge off the initial firmness and adds a bit of cushioning without sacrificing resilience. Conversely, wrapping wool around latex noodles can actually stabilize and slightly firm up the feel by limiting how freely the foam expands and shifts. It is quite interesting how the same fiber can both soften and firm up a build depending on placement and compression dynamics. That kind of vertical zoning can help maintain loft while reducing peak pressure, rather than simply adding more fill and increasing overall density.

I’ve even made the core of the pillow entirely wool, with the outer chamber filled with latex noodles, and I’ve also created two sided pillows. Instead of a traditional core surrounded by fiber or foam, I have constructed one side fiber dominant and the other side foam dominant. That way I can flip the pillow depending on what my body seems to prefer that night. I also strongly prefer using symmetrically cut pieces of latex, whether noodles or evenly and symmetrically cut cubes. There seems to be something about how symmetrical cuts interact under load. They cradle and support in a much more cohesive and predictable way than randomly cut pieces of foam. Random cuts and irregular shapes just do not perform the same way in my experience. When the pieces are cut evenly, they stay in place better and compress more smoothly, so you don’t get that splitting or shifting in the middle overnight, plus they are more predictable on how they will perform when you add or remove fill.

Somewhere along the way I also switched from the Iris Bio Sleep concept cover to the Bedrooms & More wool quilted cover. The Iris felt slightly thicker and a bit more structured, whereas the Bedrooms & More version is quilted with wool and just a touch thinner. Even though both sleep cool, I find the wool quilted cover sleeps a bit cooler and feels slightly less restrictive. That small difference in quilting material and thickness seems to reduce surface tension just enough to let the fill compress and rebound more naturally. The cover really does act like a shallow pre compression layer, and even subtle differences there can influence ear pressure and perceived density.

Another trick I’ve learned is to use a standard size pillow liner even when placing it inside a queen size quilted cover. Despite the slightly larger outer cover, the quilting occupies the extra space well, and the smaller insert effectively increases loft without requiring more fill. Instead of adding material and making the pillow denser, you are leveraging the geometry of the cover to achieve height more efficiently.

For ear pressure specifically, I have had success taking two inserts and forming them into log shaped rolls within the cover. Placing them side by side creates a subtle split or channel, so the ear is not bearing the full compressive load. That small relief zone can reduce pressure while maintaining overall loft and neck support.

One additional cover I like to use is the stretch cotton envelope style cover from European Sleep Works. I will place my insert inside that stretch cover first, and then put the entire assembly into the slightly larger quilted outer cover, standard insert inside a queen cover. The stretch layer allows the fill to articulate and offer some give before engaging the more structured quilted shell. This adds surface softness and cradle, helps with ear comfort, and still prevents bottoming out because the underlying structure remains supportive.

In my experience, small architectural adjustments such as cover stretch, quilting material, insert sizing, internal shaping, and symmetry of cut foam can influence comfort just as much as changing the fill itself. Often it is not about adding more material, but about refining how the system compresses, distributes load, and rebounds over the course of the night.

Thank you for such a thoughtful reply, Maverick!

Interesting idea about the log rolls for reducing ear support! I have experimented with a “cervical roll” at the base of my pillow, and is actually how I’ve used the wool bolus. However, with the space it took up in the BioSleep cover and the reduced fill in the layers to accomodate for it, made the pillow to flat.

Prior to that, I tried a wool bolus/lanoodle two-chamber layered arrangement, but I found it too firm and flat. So I switched to kapok for that softness and easier loft.

I have experienced a lot of the things you mention about the Bio Sleep: thicker and more structured, resulting in more surface tension. I am interested in trying out the Bedroom & More wool cover. Is there a link you can share to the European Sleep Works “stretch cotoon envelope style” cover? I’m not sure I fully understand how it works from your description, and Google didn’t turn anything up for me.

I am going to try a different cover and experiment with the horizontal rolls.