The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz

Thank you so much for this post! My wife and I were all set to buy an iComfort mattress when I found this topic. Weā€™ve since come to apperciate the ā€œwonders of latexā€ and are actually en route to OK Mattress right now to build us a perfect bed. :slight_smile: Iā€™d ask your advice, but after spending a few days reading through all the info and Q/As youā€™ve already provided, we feel like we know exactly what to look for. So instead, we just wanted to express our gratitude for all the time and effort you put into this! Weā€™re telling everyone we know about this site!

Hi cagezero,

Thanks for your kind comments ā€¦ and you sure do make my job easier when you already have a good idea of what you are looking for :slight_smile:

Iā€™m looking forward to any ongoing feedback you may choose to share about your experiences and choices.

Phoenix

Phoenix,

Yesterday my wife and I tried out a variety of different latex layer combinations at OK Mattress. Jim (the owner) and all his staff were extremely helpful, knowledgeable, and friendly. He spent a lot of time swapping out layers for us to lay on and talking to us about the ins and outs of latex. During this process we were able to try some layer combinations that were finished (laminated with ticking) and some that were unfinished (loosely stacked with no ticking). Jim advised us that an unfinished layer combination would feel significantly firmer when finished. This difference in test cases has left us with a little bit of uncertainty as to what mattress will truly be best for us.

My wife and I both weigh between 140 and 170lbs. She is 5ā€™2 and I am 5ā€™10. She mostly sleeps on her stomach, sometimes on her back. I sleep mostly on my back, sometimes on my stomach and every now and then on my side. I also have a history of back and neck problems, and have sleep apnea.

We found that we both enjoyed a finished mattress constructed of layers 2" firm, 6" medium, and 2" soft, but also enjoyed the plusher feel of stacked, unfinished 6" firm and 3" soft layers. Iā€™m concerned, however, that the support offered by the 3"/6" combo might be too much by the end of the night. Weā€™re considering (but didnā€™t get to try) a 3" firm, 4" medium, and 3" soft as a compromise between plushness and support. Given our situation, do you think weā€™re on the right track with a 3"/4"/3"?

The latex at OK Mattress has the following ILD ratings:
firm = 32 - 35 ild
medium = 24 - 25 ild
soft = 17 - 19 ild

Any advice you might have will be greatly appreciated!

Hi cagezero,

Itā€™s no surprise that what they are telling you is accurate because they have been making mattresses for a very long time :slight_smile:

Loose layers act softer than laminated layers because each layer acts a little more independently and can compress and pull inwards more without being ā€œheld backā€ as much by the layers above and below it.

Mattress ticking/quilting can also have a big effect on the final feel and properties of a mattress. Some of the reasons for this includes the type of material used and how stretchy it is ā€¦ how tight it is and how much it compresses the foam inside the mattress (making it firmer) ā€¦ the quilting pattern and quilting materials used (looser quilting patterns are softer and compressed fibers are firmer than softer fibers or foam), and the construction methods used. An unfinished layering will generally be the softest version of that particular layer combination because there is nothing to make it firmer.

Given your heights/weights and sleeping positions ā€¦ my tendency would be to go with a 2" top layer in the layering you mentioned mainly because this would put you closer to the support layers underneath and could provide better alignment particularly on your stomach and to a lesser degree your back. A medium 6" layer in between will ā€œhelpā€ the comfort layers when you are on your side but also firm up quickly past a certain point to help with alignment as well.

If you are testing two mattresses that are roughly comparable in terms of how they feel ā€¦ then the slightly firmer choice is usually better for the long term. Too soft or thick is very difficult to ā€œfixā€ while a layer that turns out to be a little too thin or firm can be easily be ā€œfixedā€ with a thin topper.

Overall though ā€¦ Oklahoma mattress will have a lot of experience with the difference between loose layers and their final product and also with fitting a mattress to the needs and preferences of their customers. If there is ever a ā€œconflictā€ between someone who gives ā€œtheory at a distanceā€ without the ability to actually see how you interact with a mattress and someone who has the knowledge and skill from many years of making mattresses and can actually see you lying on a mattress and hear your feedback in real time ā€¦ there is no doubt that i would go with the recommendations of the local manufacturer.

Phoenix

You appear to spend a lot of time on this forum, and it appears there are a lot of us that are thankful you do!

I started looking for a mattress and went to buy a Sleep Number based on a friendā€™s recommendation. I actually did purchase it, but then cancelled the purchase after realizing the model I chose did not have their 30-night free trial.

Having just been diagnosed with moderate to severe stenosis and ā€œextrusionsā€ of my back, I started doing some online research on mattresses. It appeared the memory foam was the recommended mattress for back problems, so I visited a store and was researching the Tempurpedic Cloud series. I was concerned about how hot they can feel, and doing further research led me to the gel memory foam mattresses. Then I came upon your mattress forum, and am thankful I did before spending over $4000 on a mattress and adjustable base.

I saw your post on the adjustable base you purchased, so thank you for that. Now Iā€™m pretty confused about all the types of mattresses and where to buy, etc. Iā€™m in the Phoenix, AZ area and I know there are a lot of local mattress dealers here but not sure of manufacturers. I just did an on-line chat with a company called ā€œsimply-rest.comā€ which does online sales only. I do not want to buy a mattress online without having tried it out first. I researched latex mattresses after reading this forum, but it sounds like thereā€™s all sorts of things to check out.

I am 60 years old, 5ā€™6" and 230 pounds, and have had numerous abdominal surgeries. I toss and turn every night. My sleeping preference used to be my stomach, but after all the surgeries, I alternate between both sides, stomach, and back. Now with the back problems, I really want to purchase the best that I can and am willing to spend the money. But as you point out, spending the money isnā€™t necessarily the best thing.

Although I know itā€™s good to have a trial period, I would prefer to get the bed I want on the first try. Between my own health issues I also take care of my mother, who is under hospice care at home, so it is difficult to get out and go very many places.

Your assistance would be invaluable and greatly appreciated. Thanking you in advance for any recommendations you can give.

Hi dottie,

You are fortunate to be in Phoenix as there are several very high quality and knowledgeable factory direct manufacturers nearby including two of the members of this site (meaning I consider them to be among the best of the independent manufacturers in the country) which offer great quality and value and perhaps more importantly have a lot of knowledge in fitting a mattress to an individualā€™s needs and preferences. This thread and post #4 here should be very helpful.

I would not order online when there are such great options available locally that have better quality and value and that you can personally test. If you want to keep your choices down for the sake of time ā€¦ I would focus my efforts on the two manufacturers that are members here.

In cases like yours ā€¦ memory foam can be very tricky because not only is pressure relief very important (which memory foam like latex does very well), spinal alignment can be even more important and the many different types of memory foam layering options can mean the difference between a mattress that can work well for you and a mattress that doesnā€™t work well at all (usually too thick in the comfort layers or support layers that are not the best for you). Memory foam is only a pressure relieving material and if the layers are too thick or otherwise unsuitable for your particular needs or the support system under the memory foam isnā€™t what you need ā€¦ it can cause more harm than good.

The Gel memory foams are also an emerging category and there are several different types, some of which are better than others. In general ā€¦ I would tend to avoid the types of gel memory foams that use gel particles mixed in the memory foam (like the icomfort) as particles added to memory foam can weaken the memory foam. There is an analysis and review of the iComfort lineup in post #11 here (none of which have good value) and a brief overview of the different types of gel memory foam options in post #26 here.

Hope this helps ā€¦ and I only wish that the rest of the country had local choices that were as good as yours.

Phoenix

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Thank you, Phoenix. Those are terrific information links to other threads. I read everything in this particular thread, but thereā€™s so much more information youā€™ve given out there.

Iā€™ll definitely contact the two member mattress firms listed on the #4 ā€œecoā€ thread.

Thanks again. (And my back thanks you in advance as well :slight_smile: )

You provided me with some excellent information the other day. Since then Iā€™ve been visiting mattress manufacturers, mattress retailers and doing a lot of online searching. I went and visited the mattresses.net showroom/manufacturer and looked a their latex beds. I didnā€™t find any of them extraordinarily comfortable, except for the 3" latex mattress topper.

I like the feel of memory foam, but not the full bed. I started researching latex/memory foam mattresses, and came across several sites selling natural latex, memory foam, AND air mattresses - plushbeds.com, habitatfurnishings.com, and flobeds.com. I was wondering if you had any experience or knowledge of any of these. Another brand of mattresses Iā€™ve looked at were Natura.

I plan on purchasing a queen mattress (itā€™s just for me) and putting it on an adjustable base. I like the idea that you can adjust the firmness someone by having the air pump, but also have the latex and memory foam as well.

Any advice or insight you can give me will be greatly appreciated.

Hi DOTTIE,

As you probably know ā€¦ I am a big believer in local testing and choices over an online outlet when the mattress, quality and value is similar. In your case ā€¦ you have some local manufacturers that offer some of the best value in a range of mattresses in the entire country. I would never make an online purchase that I hadnā€™t personally tested when this range of selection in all types of mattresses and this kind of value was available for me to actually test with personal experience. I generally even suggest itā€™s worth paying a premium to some degree to purchase something locally that i could personally test as being suitable for my needs and preferences (to a degree at least) but I would never pay a premium to make an online purchase when a similar mattress is available locally at a better price.

I am very familiar with all of the outlets you mentioned (plushbeds, habitat, flobeds, and Natura). A search on the forum for each will bring up lots of posts about all of them. Of these 4 ā€¦ Plushbeds and flobeds would be better value IMO but for you they would all (except Natura which is good quality but poor value) be an ā€œunknownā€ online purchase and none of them would have the value of what is already available to you in a similar mattress purchased locally that you could test personally. No matter how high quality the ingredients in all of them may be (and all 4 use quality materials) ā€¦ itā€™s always more accurate to determine the suitability of any mattress for your own personal needs and preferences with actual experience than with an online purchase and if what the online outlets you are offering is available locally at better prices ā€¦ then for me the choice of which direction to go would be fairly easy.

Hope this helps

Phoenix

Aloha Phoenix,

Might you be able to recommend some mattress manufacturers on Oahu that I might be able to purchase good/high quality memory foam mattresses from, please?, or am I stuck with Amazon.com (Costco and/or Samā€™s Club donā€™t stock the Sleep Innovations/Novaform mattresses here, and they donā€™t ship them here)?

If Iā€™m stuck with Amazon.Com ā€¦ what would be your recommendation for a matress in the $800 range, please?

I am 5ā€™10" and 280 lbs, my better 1/2 is 5ā€™6" and 160 lbs.

Mahalo for you time & help!

HawaiianKine

Hi HawaiianKine,

The only local manufacturer that I know of in Hawaii is listed in post #2 here

I believe that the ā€œbestā€ first step in shopping for a mattress online is to find a manufacturer or outlet that provides accurate information about their mattresses and the materials in it and is also skilled at
fitting" their mattresses to your needs and preferences. Once you have done this ā€¦ then choosing a mattress with their knowledge and guidance that fits your height, weight, body shape, sleeping positions, and preferences is much simpler. Of course the more testing you have done locally on mattresses that have a known constructions ā€¦ the easier it is to use your testing as a prototype for the type of mattress that would work best for you.

Each manufacturer uses different types of foam and has different types of materials, layering schemes and construction methods in their line of mattresses and sometimes small differences in construction can make a big difference in how well a mattress works for any individual. All of them have a ā€œdatabankā€ of customers who have purchased their specific mattresses so the better ones are very good at knowing what an ā€œaverageā€ person of a particular weight, shape, sleeping position, and preferences would normally be happy with.

If you are committed to memory foam ā€¦ then the density of the memory foam and the specific type of memory foam becomes important. With weights over 200 lbs or so ā€¦ memory foam under 5 lbs wonā€™t hold up nearly as long as higher density/quality memory foam. In addition to this ā€¦ the different types of memory foam (more or less breathable, more or less responsive, more or less temperature sensitive etc) and the different layering pattens in the mattress (how thick is the memory foam, what type of support system is under it etc) becomes a major part of how suitable any particular memory foam mattress may be for you.

So the first step is to choose a manufacturer or store rather than a specific mattress. If you do choose to make an online purchase without the guidance of someone who ā€œknows their stuffā€ and can advise you on which of their specific mattresses may work best for you or without local ā€œtestingā€ to act as a reference point ā€¦ then the choice of a mattress becomes much more hit and miss and the refund policy of the outlet becomes more important than the choice of mattress itself because there is no way to know if an online choice will be suitable for you without actually trying it no matter how good the quality of materials may be.

So my recommendation would be more to help you find the better outlets who are familiar with the specifics of the materials and layering in their specific mattress and to provide some general guidelines about the layering of the mattress that may work for you rather than suggest a specific mattress. A second recommendation would be to avoid the use of any memory foam density under 5 lbs for heavier weights unless you prefer its feel and response and durability was a secondary issue (and this may be difficult to find in a budget of under $800 depending on the size you want and on whether it includes a foundation). I certainly wouldnā€™t consider the Novaform/Sleep Innovations as a better option. A few of the outlets that I believe may be better choices for online memory foam purchases are in post #12 here

The more a manufacturer knows how to help you ā€œmatchā€ a specific mattress to your specific needs and preferences ā€¦ the less you need to research and know yourself.

A quick look at some of your local options that may provide better testing grounds (if they will provide you with the specifics of the layering in their mattresses) include ā€¦

https://www.slumberworldhawaii.com/ Oahu, Maui, Hawaii (big island). The carry several major brands (such as Sealy and Simmons and Tempurpedic which I would avoid) and also some more expensive brands like Organicpedic (OMI), Vi Spring and Aireloom) but they also carry a house brand called Island Dreams which I would focus on here. They are quite knowledgeable and open about the materials in their mattress if customers ask and tend to focus more on fitting a mattress to the needs and preferences of their customers and on value than they are on price alone which means that they are more concerned about their customerā€™s long term satisfaction than they are on just making the sale and the profit. Of the local retail outlets ā€¦ this would be my first choice for testing but avoiding the major brands they carry may mean their selection is more limited.

http://www.dakinemattress.com/ Hawaii (big island). Carries mattresses made by Stress-o-pedic and by Leader who are both smaller manufacturers who typically make mattresses that are better quality/value than larger brands. The mattresses on their floor are mostly lower to mid budget (under $1000 or so queen) and mainly polyfoam/innerspring mattresses although they do carry one memory foam mattress (made by Leader) which uses 5 lb memory foam. In my conversation with them though, they are more focused on price and ā€œcomfortā€ than on value and quality meaning that they are less inclined to talk about the actual materials in their mattresses than they are on the price of their mattresses alone. This is likely because they may not have access to this type of information from their manufacturers. You may need to do some extra research to find out the quality of the materials in many of their mattresses.

http://www.mauibedstore.com/ Maui. Carry a wide range of Lady Americana including latex hybrids, memory foam, gel memory foam, and innersprings that may have some better quality and value. They also may not be able to provide the details of all the materials in their mattresses (when I talked with a salesperson there it was not the type of information she had access to or would normally provide) so I would make sure here as well that you are given (or can find out) all the information you will need before making a purchase here.

There is nothing at Americaā€™s Mattress (Serta) that I would consider for a purchase. You can see for example the details of the quality and value of the iComfort lineup in post #11 here). If you do include them in your testing ā€¦ I would avoid any temptation or sales technique that may get you to buy anything here.

Hope this helps

Phoenix

Hi Phoenix,

I would really appreciate your advice purchasing a new mattress. I am 6ā€™4 and 240 lbs and my fiancee is 5ā€™6 and 130 lbs. We are both mostly side sleepers, although we occasionally sleep on our backs. We purchased a Serta iComfort Insight back in September and initially were very pleased. I would say the first three months were great; we seemed to be getting a more restful night sleep and I was no longer waking up with lower back pain. I attribute this to having better support than our last mattress, which was several years old. Well, after the first three months the supportiveness of the iComfort started diminishing and now it is to the point where it is uncomfortable to sleep on either my back or my side and I am waking up with lower back pain again. Basically, it feels like the foam top layer just caves in when I lay on it now. My fiancee agrees. Even though she weighs substantially less than I do, she says the comfort and supportiveness have diminished and she is no longer getting the restful sleep she was the first few months. If I lay right in the middle of the bed, where neither of us ever normally lay, the bed is just as supportive as the first month we bought it, so I know that we are not misremembering the initial comfort or support of the mattress.

So, with all that being said, we are returning it and want to start looking at getting something different. This was our first time trying a memory foam bed and I think we want to stay away from this style going forward. Perhaps with my size and weight, I need to stick with a more traditional spring mattress to maintain support? My fiancee likes her side a little softer, but she says she can always put on a foam topper on if she needs to. Any suggestions on types of mattresses and/or places to purchase from? We have a Sleep Number store close by, but I am not convinced their beds are worth the price tag. I live in Little Rock, AR.

Thanks,
Brad

Hi cyberbrad4,

With weights over about 200 lbs ā€¦ memory foam can be a little tricky. In addition to this ā€¦ the density of the memory foam in a mattress is the single biggest factor in how durable it is and how quickly it will soften. The iComfort gel memory foam has a 5 lb density which would normally indicate good quality but this is only because the gel particles that are mixed in with the memory foam are heavier and add to he weight. In reality ā€¦ the actual memory foam is lower density (closer to 4 lbs) which means that it would soften more quickly than higher density foams and iin addition to this ā€¦ particles added to memory foam make it less durable as well. There are versions of gel memory foams where the gel is actually part of the memory foam rather than added particles but the iComforts donā€™t use this which is one of the reasons I donā€™t believe they have great value. They also use other types of foam in many of their models and in the higher priced models ā€¦ some of them have such thick comfort layers that even normal softening that all polyfoam and memory foams go through in the first few weeks may result in the mattress being too soft for a particular body weight, shape, and sleeping position. It appears this is what has happened.

When you are looking for a mattress ā€¦ the first thing I would do is eliminate as many as possible of worst choices so that you can be more focused on choices where your odds of long term satisfaction are much better. This article will help you avoid most of the traps and pitfalls of mattress shopping.

The next best step is to gather some basic information about mattresses and the materials that are used in them. The goal here is to gather enough basic information that you an ask better questions and to help you identify which outlets really are knowledgeable and which are just telling you marketing stories. Reading through the overviews in the mattresses section will help you here. I wouldnā€™t ā€œstudyā€ them so much as just read them through to gain some general information.

The next step ā€¦ before you start looking at or thinking about ā€œwhich mattressā€ ā€¦ is to find some of the better outlets that are knowledgeable about the materials in a mattress and how to fit a mattress to the needs and preferences of each person or couple. If they know this (and your basic reading will help you know when someone knows what they are talking about) ā€¦ then you wonā€™t have to. One of the best signs of outlets like this is a willingness to give you good information on the phone about prices and mattress materials that may be suitable for you to try. Calling on the phone first will help eliminate the outlets who only want you to come there before they will give you any information.

When you have found one or a few outlets that know their stuff and offer mattresses with good value (based on comparing other mattresses that use similar materials and construction) ā€¦ then you can relax knowing that you donā€™t have to go store to store and listen to more and more confusing stories to find the best mattress and the best value for you. This bypasses most of the frustration of mattress shopping.

Once you reach this point ā€¦ itā€™s just a matter of finding the ā€œbestā€ mattress in each of the list of outlets you have chosed and then deciding on the one that best meets your needs and preferences and has the best value in your budget range. This way you completely avoid most of the outlets that will do more to confuse and frustrate you and sell you a mattress that does more for their profit than it does for your needs and preferences.

There are two factory direct outlets near you where I would I would spend most of my time. they are ā€¦

Denver MattressĀ® - The Easiest Way to Get the Right Mattress Regional factory direct outlet that makes a range of mattresses including memory foam, latex, and innersprings. They have a good selection of choices and have better value than most. I would only focus on their own brands and ignore the major brands they also carry.

https://www.jordans.com/sleep-lab/about-our-brands/jordans-mattress-factory Factory direct manufacturer who makes memory foam, latex, and innerspring mattresses. They fit the profile of smaller factory direct manufacturers who use better quality materials in their mattresses and then sell them at lower prices than the larger mass market outlets.

These would be my reference points for any other outlets you visit and quite frankly if I was in your shoes ā€¦ I probably wouldnā€™t spend any time at any others with one possible exception ā€¦

https://thebeddingmart.com/ Carries Pure Latex bliss which are a high quality line of talalay latex mattresses which are better quality and value than most mainstream mattresses but not usually in the same value range as many local manufacturers.

Hope this helps

Phoenix

Hi:

Like many others here, we are looking at replacing our 10 year old innerspring mattress set with either a foam/latex bed or an air bed or a combination thereof. Also, like many here we tried the Icomfort revolution and liked how it felt in the showroom but were a bit concerned about the non-negotiable price. After reading through all the negative feedback on this site and elsewhere, we clearly need to do more shopping around.

We live in west Michigan about 30 miles west of Grand Rapids. Can you recommend any reputable local manufacturers or distributors in our area? I havenā€™t seen any others on this site from our area.

Thanks for your help!

Scottp

Hi Scottp,

You have some great choices very close to you!

buismattress.net Holland, MI They are a local factory direct manufacturer that is a member of this site (meaning I think highly of both them and their mattresses) and I highly recommend them. They make a wide range of mattresses using high quality components and materials and have great quality and value. Marc Dozeman the owner is truly ā€œmattress peopleā€.

jonathanstevens.com Grand Rapids Local factory direct manufacturer who also makes a full range of mattresses that are also very good quality and value.

chirobed Holland, MI. They make a range of latex/innerspring hybrids, one and two sided innersprings, and some memory foam mattresses as well. They specialize in custom manufacturing, often from chiropractor recommendations or for more challenging circumstances, but also have standard models on their floor as well for ā€œregularā€ consumers to test. They are knowledgeable and helpful and have some good quality and value available.

aacawaybedding.com Comstock Park, Smaller local factory direct manufacturer who carries Restonic and Posturecraft (because he doesnā€™t want to make everything himself he told me) but also makes their own to any specs you may want using high quality materials.

acmebeddingcompany Muskegon Local factory direct manufacturer that also manufactures a full range of mattresses. They have fewer details on their site but in the few shorter conversations I had with them they seemed to be good people and very knowledgeable.

capitolbedding.com Smaller wholesale manufacturer in Lansing, MI that makes a wide range of traditional innerspring and specialty mattresses. They have some detailed specs on their site and have a capitolbedding to find any local retailers in the area. They make some good quality/value mattresses and are transparent about the materials they use.

You are fortunate to have such good choices nearby and thereā€™s no doubt that the best quality and value in your area are with this group of manufacturers :slight_smile:

Phoenix

Hi,

I was wondering if you had any opinion about the brand Zedbed?
There is a description of their mattress here:
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I was recommended to buy the iComfort but based on Phoenix comments I will pass. I am wondering if Zedbed is good replacement.

Thanks.

There is also the Essentia 8 Classic which seems to fit most of the criteria described in this forum but it is pretty expensive. Any recommendations on this one?

Thanks.

Hi Sylvain,

My thoughts on Essentia are in this thread starting in post #2 and continuing with a discussion with a company representative.

The Zedbed certainly uses high quality materials and could make a good quality choice (although latex has a very different feel from the memory foam in the iComfort line). It is on the expensive side though which is often the case in larger outlets that carry many major brand mattresses. They seem to be an up and coming company that is unusual because they actually pour their own memory foam.

While I havenā€™t done extensive research in Quebec (partly because I donā€™t speak French) ā€¦ I do know of many factory direct manufacturers in the province and I would suspect that at least some of them may have better value for similar quality latex hybrid mattresses. There is a wide range of latex mattresses as well as every other style available here. The ones I know of within about 100 K of Montreal (and Iā€™ve added the ones Iā€™m aware of in the rest of the province as well) include ā€¦

https://www.matelasalhorizontal.com/ Terrebonne
http://www.letendrematelas.com/ Drummondville
http://www.literielaurier.com/ Montreal
http://www.literieprovinciale.ca/fr/ Montreal (see some comments in post #1 here)
http://matelasbourck.com/ Terrebonne
Home - Matelas Dauphin Brossard, Quebec city (several), Sainte-Foy, Beauport, Charny, Levis, Scott, Gatineau, Thetford Mines, Rimouski
https://www.matelasexcellence.ca/ Laval
www.matelas-personnel.com/ Montreal
http://www.matelasprestige.com/ St-Eustache (see some comments here and here)
http://www.matelasrene.com/ Drummondville, Matane, Granby, Nicolet, Quebec city (several), Riviere du Loup, Rimouski, Shawinigan, Sorel, Trois Rivieres, Victoriaville
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http://www.futondor.com/ Montreal
http://www.matelassiesta.com/ Brossard
http://www.matelasconfort.com/ Quebec City
https://www.matelas.qc.ca/ Notre-Dame-des-Pins
matelas.com/index.htm Saint-Tite
http://www.matelasliondor.com/ Chicoutimi, Alma
https://www.matelascondor.com/ Cap-Saint-Ignace

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There may be more that I havenā€™t sorted through yet but there are some very good choices here.

Phoenix

Hi, Phoenix!

thank you so very much for your very knowledgable and insightful commentary on the iComfort mattress. My wife and I went out yesterday looking to buy another mattress having never heard of iComfort beforeā€“we havenā€™t been in the mattress market for years. We ended up buying an iComfortā€“a Cal King Adjustable Split frame for way too much $$ā€“about $8,500 when all is said and done. Having done a little bit research and, most importantly, read this thread now, we know Iā€™m going to call the store shortly and cancel the purchase.

Now, here is the $64 dollar question:

where should we go to shop for a top quality mattress here in the Metro Phoenix area?

thank you so very much for the education and informationā€“many others on this thread as well.

Hi jxrphoenix,

You are very fortunate to live in the Phoenix area because there are some great choices there in a wide variety of mattresses including a couple of our manufacturing members.
Post #4 here should help :slight_smile:

Phoenix