SleepEZ Inquiry Response

Hey guys! This site rocks - I’ve learned more about mattresses by reading old threads on this site than I have anywhere else on the web. Great job!

I sent an email to the guys at SleepEZ just last night, and here is their response:

Dear Jeff,

First, thank you for your interest in our products!

With the statistics you so kindly provided below, I would suggest the 10,000 (3 Layer) model. Latex preference is up to you. Assuming you are going with the Talalay blended latex (most popular), I would suggest a soft over medium over firm for the both of you. Most customers under 180lbs will end up with a this setup after 90 days, or very close. This will offer you a nice contour, plush layer on top, with a gradual support “system” down below.

I hope this information helps. Should you have further questions, please don’t hesitate to call. Have a wonderful day!!


Anyway, I’ve been doing a ton of research on the web on Latex mattresses, and I think SleepEZ should be fine. My wife is about 5’4 ~ 129, and she likes a soft mattress. I am 5’-8 ~ 158, and I like a soft mattress as well, but I’m not sure we have the same needs. Then again, we’re both side sleepers - so maybe we have the same needs afterall.

So what do you guys think? Everything I’ve read on this site claims that blended Talalay is a bit superior to natural, so I’m not sure why I should go for natural. Also, from what I’ve read on this site, I’m guessing the 3" 22 ILD top layer should be adequate for the both of us - or should I go with different company where I can get a 2" comfort layer?

Here in Louisville, KY - I don’t have much to try in the way of local stores, but let me know what you think.

Hi jwevans01,

I would also think that this would be the most “logical” choice for both of you considering your weight and sleeping position. I would also do some local testing if I could to confirm how 3" of talalay in the 22-24 ILD range felt to you (it can be different from what people are used to in a more “mainstream” mattress. It may also be true that you prefer a 2" layer or a softer ILD but without some local testing this would be difficult to know for sure and I would stick with the recommendations of the manufacturer you are dealing with. It’s also worth noting that I personally would tend to ask questions on the phone rather than by email because phone calls can accomplish more in half an hour (including talking about options that may not be obvious on a manufacturer’s website) than weeks of emailing questions back and forth (and they can also address questions that you may not even think to ask or know needs answering in an email).

Post #3 here includes the factory direct manufacturers in or near Louisville which may be worth including in your research either as purchase options or to test different types of layering.

With a little bit of local research … any online choices can be made with much more confidence that they take into account your personal preferences that only you can feel.

You have some good options available :slight_smile:


Thanks for the quick response!

I have checked out 2 of the local factory direct manufacturers listed in the thread, and none of them carried latex. However, I did come across the same Restonic mattress mentioned by the original poster. At a place called Mattress and More, they carry 3 different Restonic latex mattresses. The firm mattress, the Accord (that JillandBrian mentioned) is way too firm for us, but there were two others. They both had 2" of soft over 2" of medium natural Talalay Latex. However, one of them had a 6" Latex core, which had a price of $2500. The other had a much firmer core that served as some type of edge support system, but it only had a price tag of $1999. I felt ok laying on either one of these mattresses, although I definitely sank into the one with the Latex core a bit more. And when I laid on the one with the edge support system, I could feel it was more firm overall, but I liked the overall feel of it as well.

Do you think the 2x2" layers I experienced is a softer feel than the 2x3" layers I would get with the SleepEZ?

I also need to pick out a 8"-9" foundation - which do you like the best, the one at SleepEZ, FloBeds, Plushbeds, or

Hi jwevans01,

Denver Mattress carries 2 mattresses which use latex on top. The Snowmass has 2" of 24 ILD talalay latex (similar to SleepEz) with an inch of firmer polyfoam on top. This is over 6" 32 ILD talalay and 2" of “firm” polyfoam on the bottom. This would be most similar of the two to the SleepEz (bearing in mind that the polyfoam is not latex and that this mattress has a different ticking).

The Aspen has the same 2" of 24 ILD latex but it has 1" of supersoft polyfoam underneath this and then 4" of 32 ILD talalay latex and 4" of firm HD polyfoam on the bottom. Because of the 1" of supersoft poly under the latex on top … this would be softer than the 3" of talalay.

Bear in mind that this is a very rough comparison of the top 3" of the mattresses which can provide a guideline but is not a “duplicate”. The lower layers are also different in terms of layering and firmness (they both have 32 ILD “medium” latex underneath but the layering and layer thickness is different than the SleepEz) so the comparison would be more in the top layers only.

The comparison with the Restonic would depend on knowing the ILD of what they are calling “soft”. There are so many different versions of what different manufacturers call soft or firm or anything else that the ILD is really the best way to compare. Layer thickness also makes as big a difference in the feel and properties of a mattress as layer softness so I wouldn’t say that the Restonic would provide a good guideline without knowing the specifics of the construction. Vague descriptions (which unfortunately are more the “rule” than the exception) can do more to confuse than help.

Based on their website … Bowles does make some mattresses with latex on top but this is mixed with 3" of supersoft poly as well so this would not be a great comparison. In cases like this I would talk with them on the phone to ask some specific questions to help decide if they were worth a visit. Examples of some questions I would ask are “do you have any mattresses with 2 or 3” of talalay latex with no more than an inch of polyfoam in the upper layers or quilting" and “do you give people who want it the specs of each layer in your mattress (including the ILD of any latex and the density of any polyfoam?”. If the answers to these types of questions are positive… then the outlet is worth visiting either as a good place to test different layers or as a place to make a purchase.

Pure Latex Bliss uses various thicknesses of 19 ILD latex on top with different layers underneath but their specs are known and can provide a rough guideline as well even though the layer thicknesses are different.

In general … mattress testing is more about having a guideline and approximation for an online purchase than it is about duplicating a specific construction. Some rough guidelines in combination with the ability to re-arrange or exchange layers can in almost all cases result in a very good choice.

Without specific testing on known ILD’s and layer thicknesses, a recommendation by an online manufacturer based on averages for similar body styles will be the most accurate most of the time because they know what many people who are similar in their makeup have felt about their choices. There are exceptions of course but this is part of the risk and the advantage of layer exchanges.

There are quite a few different versions of KD (knock down) slatted foundations and while they are all similar … the descriptions don’t always seem to match what people actually receive in my experience. This appears to be based on sometimes inconsistent manufacturing which a mattress manufacturer wouldn’t discover until their customer had opened the box and put the foundation together. It seems the quality has been somewhat mixed based on what I have read and heard over time and some people have received “cheap wood” while others seem to receive the higher quality wood that is advertised.

In general …I would tend to choose the foundation which came with the mattress I was buying if the price difference is small. It would probably take so much time on back and forth phone calls with each outlet asking some very time consuming, specific, and detailed questions and a great deal of “analysis” to come to any real conclusion about which was better that I doubt it would be worth the effort. If you purchase from the mattress manufacturer and the one you get is one of those that seems to be of lower quality (say has softer or cheaper wood than the description), then your recourse would be good from the manufacturer of your mattress who wouldn’t hesitate to do what was necessary to correct any legitimate problems.

My personal preference is a wood slatted base and most of the cheaper ones are of the KD type and they are roughly comparable. Of course there are many that are much higher quality than the KD foundations but the better the quality the higher the price and each person would need to decide if the higher prices are worth it when most of them will work well.

The wire grid foundations also seem to work well but here too there is a wide variety of different models. The only way that seems reasonable to compare the lowest cost versions besides by price is to take a look at the spacing of the wire grid because more wires would provide narrower “gaps” and a more even surface. The best I’ve seen so far based on this criteria (which may not be the only way to compare them) is 11 longitudinal wires per side such as this one or this one or even this one (which seems to be different from the other two). There are many more which have what appear to be wider spacing in the grid. They all seem to have sufficient weight capacity (although it seems that some places exaggerate this because I’ve seen the same model with different names and rated weight capacity at different outlets).

The next step up in a wire grid type from these would be a foundation like the Power Stack foundation (Note added later: this is a discontinued product).

Some posts and threads that talk more about foundations and the many options available in many price ranges include post #7 and onwards in this thread, along with this thread and post #47 in this thread (which also includes more about tension adjustable and position adjustable bases).

ADDED LATER: All the foundation information has now been amalgamated in the foundation thread here.

Unless you have a strong preference otherwise (either for better quality or lower quality/cheaper than what a manufacturer recommends for your mattress) or you know of an option for a similar quality foundation for significantly less … I would follow the recommendation of the manufacturer where you are purchasing your mattress.

SleepEz and Plushbeds are both KD types of foundations. Flobeds has several different types but their “basic” models (both in the pine and the slightly more expensive fir) are better quality and more expensive. The Natura is another one that is better quality than the basic KD type.


Even though the Aspen and the Snowmass have a bit of firm poly foam at the bottom, do you think they would hold up well over time? Those two mattresses are pretty inexpensive. I may stop by their store sometime this week.

I think they have 15 year warranties, but I don’t know how long they’ll hold up.

How long do you think these could hold up for?

Also, what do you think of the Telluride Plush mattress? It’s an innerspring mattress with the following construction:

15 year warranty (non-prorated)

Quilt Layers:
Stretch Knit Ticking
1 1/2" 1.8lb Density Convoluted Foam
1" Bioflex™ Soy Based Foam
Natural Rayon Fire Barrier

Comfort Layers:
2"Talalay Latex
1 1/4" 1.8lb Density Convoluted Foam
1 Flex Net Insulator

Support System: (Queen)
Coil Density: 1080* Individually Wrapped, Foam Encased
Coils (Queen Size)
16 Gauge Tempered Steel


Hi jwevans01,

The Telluride uses higher quality polyfoams than are typical in the industry (1.8 lb which includes their biofoam which is also polyfoam with a 1.8 lb density) but this is not at durable as talalay latex. This mattress overall would be very soft both because the comfort layers are thicker and the pocket coil innersprings are also higher gauge (softer) than the “average”. I would be a little hesitant with this unless I had confirmed that my alignment is OK but the fact that both of you are lighter and side sleepers makes this more appropriate than it would be for heavier people or those who slept on their backs or stomach.

Both the Aspen and the Snowmass only have an inch of polyfoam in the upper layers which is within the maximum I normally recommend for a latex mattress. The polyfoam closer to the bottom would not be an issue because it is used more for support and isn’t subject to the same mechanical compression as the top layers (which tend to be the weak link of a mattress). Latex is the most durable of all foams and while there is no way to know for sure how long any mattress will last for a particular individual … I think that 15 years would be a reasonable expectation with a plus or minus range on either side of this depending on how people use their mattress, how they care for it, and their weights. Some latex mattresses have been in daily use for 3 or 4 decades but these are usually single slab mattresses that are thinner and don’t have separate comfort layers. Overall … both the Aspen and the Snowmass would be more durable than other mattresses that contained more polyfoam in the upper layers and they are both very good value compared to most mattresses with similar construction. IMO … they would both be more durable than theTelluride although your lighter weights would tend to help any mattress last longer than it would for someone that was heavier.

Hope this helps.